Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dd05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id EA053380000EC; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 16:36:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1SERV4-0006p8-UJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Apr 2012 21:35:46 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1SERV4-0006oz-FW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Apr 2012 21:35:46 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.100.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1SERV3-0008SV-Ai for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Apr 2012 21:35:46 +0100 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q31KZiAJ027058 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 22:35:44 +0200 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id q31KZgN5028064 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 22:35:43 +0200 Message-ID: <4F78BC03.9020807@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 22:35:15 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?U3RlZmFuIFNjaMOkZmVy?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8CEDDE7C797C0FB-1AAC-F23D@webmail-d101.sysops.aol.com> <4F77FA63.1060009@freenet.de> <4F789334.1080800@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4F78A899.9010004@freenet.de> In-Reply-To: <4F78A899.9010004@freenet.de> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: ULF: 11.6 =?UTF-8?B?wrVIeiB0cmFuc21pc3Npb24=?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050101000403080206080506" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:507415680:93952408 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40914f78bc5b5f14 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050101000403080206080506 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay.uni-heidelberg.de id q31KZiAJ027058 Hi Wolf, Yes i tried to buy one from WIMA so i sent them a request. It was a 14V=20 / 420 F / 900A type (SCMCA3B420MC00MV00 at=20 http://www.wima.com/DE/supercap_mc_block.htm). I intended to switch it=20 in parallel to my old battery in my car since i was nerved to replace it=20 each few years. Also i just wanted to play with it. But the price, even=20 including a discount of 30% for the university was very close to 1000 EUR= ! But its quite a fascinating technic and i hope they will become cheeper=20 in the next few years. That is the perfect energy storage! Leight=20 weight, low volume, low internal resistance, lifetime 500,000=20 charge/discharges. Also interesting for the HF friends to drive a PA=20 when beeing /p or /m for calling the own callsign in a pile up, taking 5=20 kA current consumption :-) 73, Stefan Am 01.04.2012 21:12, schrieb wolf_dl4yhf: > Hi Stefan, > > Yes, 3000 Faraday sounds reasonable. But the price may not. > Guess this is the type of capacitor used in 'batteries' to start large=20 > Diesel engines in trains (no kidding). > > > Cheers, > Wolf . > > > Am 01.04.2012 19:41, schrieb Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer: >> Hi Wolf, >> >> Am 01.04.2012 08:49, schrieb wolf_dl4yhf: >>> Hello Markus and group, >>> >>> I will certainly look out for the signal. Only have to modify the=20 >>> soundcard's input coupling capacitor a tiny bit, guess I must=20 >>> connect a second capacitor in parallel. But sure there is something=20 >>> suitable in the junk-box. >> If not, try one of these: http://www.wima.com/DE/supercap_c60.htm >> >> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >> > --------------050101000403080206080506 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay.uni-heidelberg.de id q31KZiAJ027058 Hi Wolf,

Yes i tried to buy one from WIMA so i sent them a request. It was a 14V / 420 F / 900A type (SCMCA3B420MC00MV00 at http://www.wima.com/DE/supercap_mc_block.htm). I inte= nded to switch it in parallel to my old battery in my car since i was nerved to replace it each few years. Also i just wanted to play with it. But the price, even including a discount of 30% for the university was very close to 1000 EUR!
But its quite a fascinating technic and i hope they will become cheeper in the next few years. That is the perfect energy storage! Leight weight, low volume, low internal resistance, lifetime 500,000 charge/discharges. Also interesting for the HF friends to drive a PA when beeing /p or /m for calling the own callsign in a pile up, taking 5 kA current consumption :-)

73, Stefan

Am 01.04.2012 21:12, schrieb wolf_dl4yhf:
Hi Stefan,

Yes, 3000 Faraday sounds reasonable. But the price may not.
Guess this is the type of capacitor used in 'batteries' to start large Diesel engines in trains (no kidding).


Cheers,
=C2=A0=C2=A0 Wolf .


Am 01.04.2012 19:41, schrieb Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer:
Hi Wolf,

Am 01.04.2012 08:49, schrieb wolf_dl4yhf:
Hello Markus and group,

I will certainly look out for the signal. Only have to modify the soundcard's input coupling capacitor a tiny bit, guess I must connect a second capacitor in parallel. But sure there is something suitable in the junk-box.
If not, try one of these:=C2=A0=C2=A0 http://www.wima.com/DE/= supercap_c60.htm

73, Stefan/DK7FC


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