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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Dear all, a real audion receiver usually contains an adjustable rf feedback so that the rx can oscillate. Therefore a pitch of 800 Hz should be obtainable without the reception of any other transmitter close to the wanted signal. 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Therefore a pitch of 800 Hz should be obtainable without the reception of any other transmitter close to the wanted signal. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "Stefan Schäfer" schrieb: > Hello group, > > Since yesterday in the afternoon, i'm running a CW beacon again at 137.0 > kHz. Speed is about 25 BPM i guess. > It was intended to generate a test signal for my antenna tests here in > the holiday camp in JO41. > After seeing two interesting spots in the DX cluster ( > http://www.dxsummit.fi/CustomFilter.aspx?customCount=50&customRange=137 > ) i decided to run it some days longer, knowing that many LF listeners > can cross the way (=spectrum) and note that there is something going on > in the LF amateur band. > > This time i got a mail from Horst/DL2SAV near Stuttgart (JN48 i think). > He gave me a very interesting report. He is using no amateur radio to > receive LF but an old tube radio from the 60's (Schaub-Lorenz) and a > homemade tube Audion. He tells that DCF39 seems to work as the BFO, so > he can hear me in normal AM mode, like a NDB. Today he sent me 3 > recordings which sound very fascinating for me. If you want to listen, > here the link: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/DK7FC_137kHz_30Apr12_amTag_mit_Audion.mp3 > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/Dk7FC_137kHz_30Apr_12_mit_Radio_Schaub_Lorenz.mp3 > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/DK7FC_137kHz_30_Apr_112_mit_Audiion.mp3 > > What i don't understand: If DCF39 is the BFO and i am transmitting at > 137.0, then the CW sidetone should be 1830 Hz (LSB, 138.83-137.0)? But > the tone from the Audion sounds rather like 800 Hz for me. Maybe someone > has an explanation. > > BTW the beacon is stilll on the air... > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > >