Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id DBDA3380000B6; Mon, 5 Mar 2012 14:18:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1S4cuN-0003fP-QI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2012 18:45:19 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1S4cuM-0003fG-SP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2012 18:45:18 +0000 Received: from mail-qy0-f171.google.com ([209.85.216.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1S4cuK-0005fT-CY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2012 18:45:18 +0000 Received: by qcsp15 with SMTP id p15so2621280qcs.16 for ; Mon, 05 Mar 2012 10:45:10 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of wd2xgj@gmail.com designates 10.224.59.209 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.224.59.209; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of wd2xgj@gmail.com designates 10.224.59.209 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=wd2xgj@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=wd2xgj@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.224.59.209]) by 10.224.59.209 with SMTP id m17mr10447387qah.5.1330973110010 (num_hops = 1); Mon, 05 Mar 2012 10:45:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3KRa99A6oL7dKlZb69NTgXwE0Y+UQrtFi3xeT+wdV40=; b=KYTXLAyeTQ9wz0rPAon8hZeMrLL60VPFZo7ne1eiDUlOfhZArtUCwhMui8Jd+6uOEx cUMa0bwAeA33lchleDGpLByqJ0RXG+kVvwOpsztVa3rhVP1zEDyrC0Vl+QoZupbVv5/Z f/qMWZQErwevTG5+i7kdVa8rxfo46ThsVXQvzYUCrcl1/ci8tNal7RKkXxkt2nbX490+ VGh0xIAbPN88i+LeYfTOrz5zZABkOUsO3nWwZZIMbTDRt3uIWQlp2/eXrudBBjW7hPWq 8VPjfNuUdXr9spEJZ2xeP++qPM0qJcAEV3aacDKSnfWKIIsgigf0DiUNPMNqgvMD4mX7 FHKw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.59.209 with SMTP id m17mr8857703qah.5.1330973109763; Mon, 05 Mar 2012 10:45:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.137.148 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Mar 2012 10:45:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1330961271.3296.12.camel@g4gvw-high-grade> References: <4f50abca.8a0eb40a.64c9.ffff8ddb@mx.google.com> <1330880070.3047.22.camel@g4gvw-high-grade> <72715D81C8474C0FA1FAFCCCEDFB170D@IBM7FFA209F07C> <1330961271.3296.12.camel@g4gvw-high-grade> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 13:45:09 -0500 Message-ID: From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: RSGB Membership - Bit off topic. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:502087424:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d002.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4064f5511a17a3e X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none I just renewed my RSGB membership online. I noticed that there is no provision for renewing for multiple years - you can sign up for direct debit but that's it. If the Society is having a temporary financial emergency making provisions for multi-year membership could bring in extra money in the short run while it gets its house in order. 73 Warren K2ORS On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:27 AM, pat wrote: > Chris, > > This is probably not the most appropriate place to continue the > discussion so as my final on this: > > A few of the professional bodies do this for retired members who still > retain some privelages and a welcome at Branch meetings etc., get > reduced perks but retain status. This was suggested to the Royal Surrey > Gas Board some years ago but I think it ended up in the "Not Invented > Here" file! > > > 73 > > > > > On Mon, 2012-03-05 at 10:12 +0000, Chris wrote: >> Hi Pat, >> I tend to agree with you over RSGB membership. A cheaper grade of member= ship >> might work wonders for an increase in numbers for RSGB - I would certain= ly >> join, even with my reservations over the amount of waste and poor decisi= on >> making in the past. I do not require RadCom anyway, I get given copies b= y >> two members! To be honest, the mag is far less inspiring than it used to= be >> and I hardly bother to read it these days. The fact that I get given oth= er >> peoples copies suggests how little they value them, with many other >> publications people save them and are proud of their collection, often >> seeking out back issues to complete the set. The lack of a cheaper >> membership option, without hard copy of RadCom, suggests to me another >> example of poor management and the short sighted approach taken. The Rad= Com >> advertisements are of less importance now too, I would guess most use th= e >> internet to browse their favourite dealers full catalogue, or more likel= y >> Ebay! >> Vy 73, >> Chris, G4AYT. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "pat" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 4:54 PM >> Subject: Re: LF: RE: Re: RSGB Membership - Bit off topic. >> >> >> Jim, >> >> Many of us paid dues for years but harder times led to harsh choices. >> Some of the lost and squandered funds might have justifiably been used >> to create a cheaper grade of membership even one with only a reduced >> online journal (though Radcom benefits from advertiser income too). The >> cost of membership roughly equates to the cost of my weekly Park and >> Ride ticket into town! At the moment my choice is Linux Format at a >> similar monthly cost - and I seem to be paying for more articles I can >> use, a CD and very few adverts. It's all relative. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 2012-03-02 at 11:16 +0000, James Cowburn wrote: >> > Points taken and well made! =A0I am a fully paid up member as I quite = enjoy >> > Radcom and the cost isn=92t much different than other radio mags. =A0D= idn=92t >> > know >> > they'd sold the tower, that was a result and I did know Bletchely had >> > opened >> > (eventually, but they have had other pressing issues to fend off!) >> > >> > I shall retract my harsh comments in this case! =A0:-) >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave Sergeant >> > Sent: 02 March 2012 10:52 >> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> > Subject: LF: Re: RSGB Membership - Bit off topic. >> > >> > A bit harsh Jim. The tower was sold a year ago at what it was bought >> > for. Bletchley opened last weekend and is budgeted for, admittedly a >> > bit over initial budgets. >> > >> > Remember if it weren't for the RSGB we certainly wouldn't have any of >> > our current LF allocations. Several members of the society (one of >> > which is now on the interim board) were the key players in negotiation= s >> > on this with IARU. >> > >> > And nobody else has commented, RSGB subs are =A347 with direct debit. >> > Fairly similar to other organisations of similar size. >> > >> > 73 Dave G3YMC >> > >> > On 2 Mar 2012 at 10:39, James Cowburn wrote: >> > >> > > I suspect any incremental cost in my membership due to "non-member >> > > support" is minimal! =A0Most will be going on undoing the current fi= scal >> > > mess the society is in, sorting out Bletchley and trying to sell tha= t >> > > bloody tower they bought! >> > > >> > >> > >> > http://www.davesergeant.com >> > >> > >> > >> > > -- > 73 es gd dx de Pat G4GVW, Nr Felixstowe, East Coast, UK > > --=20 73 Warren K2ORS =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XGJ =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XSH/23 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XEB/2 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XGR/1