Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-md01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 110CB3800008D; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 20:23:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1SAVnF-0004Ng-2S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 00:22:17 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1SAVnE-0004NX-Hx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 00:22:16 +0000 Received: from mail-qc0-f171.google.com ([209.85.216.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1SAVnC-0000xJ-3P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 00:22:16 +0000 Received: by qcsp15 with SMTP id p15so1476282qcs.16 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 17:22:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pikFWXesqZlun23hxiJFklJMT6R4sq0d1/fe1O67JdI=; b=T707ayIPp6WRiyAMC2sSriWL4LurQp3yjrVc4p+VuhTMQ/5GV234vSe03atvaHvm40 np5Z3MkonHCdWbsrq6o3PAjGrdtc5fm7JCqPKpYyZsSuBBQlhiFipD5gAnjrKleK1dBV Uy0UwXaia0IYY5nBV366FT93kti0TxF3DMtn2XiwwTXru50rw5h1H63GOyGXnBHAO2X4 OkRhEFPuynAysOBP7QV5CkIX/EXFrlfpYQj/+IJOQ84SXM7mMQryMRaSjqLJUplV35eo ZMPXue3tk75BiKppb4Z6/ywaxc+zkaWz22fmaD5h7kHWfe0515oZLLaTwC9w8CCsMucC H7tA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.189.12 with SMTP id dc12mr8603383qab.22.1332375727508; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 17:22:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.23.73 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 17:22:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8CED5CE328D8887-788-213FA@webmail-m053.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CED505AF2A3E46-1FA8-1AFF2@webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com> <8CED5062B9C2DD7-1FA8-1B02F@webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com> <160601A6C60C4449ACF9D1E0A9BA73DF@White> <8CED5CE328D8887-788-213FA@webmail-m053.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 20:22:07 -0400 Message-ID: From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Wildwood Loran-C on air again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=SEE_FOR_YOURSELF autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:492214560:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m269.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60554f6a710c5b8c X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Markus, Very loud here in Massachusetts, approximately 300mi (500kM) mostly an over-water path. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XGJ =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XSH/23 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XEB/2 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XGR/1 On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Markus Vester wrote= : > Wildwood=A0is again transmitting=A0experimental Loran signals=A0on GRI 89= 70 M and > X tonight. Traces are becoming visible here in the two rightmost slots on > http://www.alice-dsl.net/df6nm/LoranView/LoranGrabber.htm > > On the US east coast, it should be audible on 100 kHz, and=A0some of the > familiar lines=A0should have reappeard on 137 kHz spectrograms. > > Best regards, > Markus (DF6NM) > -----Urspr=FCngliche Mitteilung----- > Von: Markus Vester > An: rsgb_lf_group > Verschickt: Di, 20 Mrz 2012 11:44 pm > Betreff: Re: LF: Fwd: US Loran - got it! > > There's also a 8970 master emission, with the same fading history, and ab= out > 2.4 ms earlier here than if it would=A0come from Dana.=A0Thus=A0Wildwood = is > currently transmitting both M and X signals. > > Best 73, > Markus (DF6NM) > > From: Markus Vester > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:13 AM > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Fwd: US Loran - got it! > > Hey Chris, > > it's there! I have added five slots 8970 m,w,x,y,z to the right of my LV > display, and since 22 UT I'm indeed getting a trace in the=A0X slot alloc= ated > to Seneca. It's about 12 pixels (0.55 ms) late here, so either the emissi= on > delay or the location must be wrong. > > Someone=A0reported that the emissions are actually from the Loran Support > Center, Wildwood NJ (Cape May, 38.9464N 74.8668W).=A0=A0According to Goog= le > Earth this is 6595 km from me, 164 km further=A0than Seneca. That's exact= ly > 0.55 ms extra delay! So we know that they=A0are transmitting from Wildwoo= d > using Seneca parameters. > > If you like to see it yourself, you can simply add a line containing "897= 0x" > at the end of the stations section, after the GPS entry. > Thanks for the tip! > > Best 73, > Markus > > -----Urspr=FCngliche Mitteilung----- > Von: Chris 4X1RF > An: Markus Vester > Verschickt: Di, 20 Mrz 2012 2:29 pm > Betreff: US Loran > > Hi Markus, > > From the 'time-nuts' list, yesterday evening around 20UTC the 8970x Senec= a > N.Y. station was reported as being active. > > 73s > Chris