Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 90AAF380000B3; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:24:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1SCkPS-0001hH-8D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 05:22:58 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1SCkPR-0001h8-IE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 05:22:57 +0100 Received: from bay0-omc1-s11.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.190.22]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1SCkPQ-0000Q2-6R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 05:22:57 +0100 Received: from BAY154-W35 ([65.54.190.61]) by bay0-omc1-s11.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:22:48 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [81.200.63.88] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: _RSGB_LF Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 06:22:48 +0200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <8CEDA76E04F70F0-1B04-5AAF@webmail-d082.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CEDA76E04F70F0-1B04-5AAF@webmail-d082.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Mar 2012 04:22:48.0452 (UTC) FILETIME=[6EA69440:01CD0C9A] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d99944e6-9cbd-4834-a226-4412b0bbd7bf_" Subject: RE: VLF: DF6NM on 8970.002 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:476227072:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4094f72927b4583 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --_d99944e6-9cbd-4834-a226-4412b0bbd7bf_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Markus=2C VLF!Your signal is nice visible on my grabber in QRSS6000 a= nd traces in QRSS600. In the 6000 window is evident=2C that we did our VLF = QSO in time=2C when the noise conditions were not the best. I have written = an article about our qso in Czech. It will be publised in a ham magazine "R= adioamater"=2C common known in The Czech and Slovak republic. Some hams wou= ld be encouraged to find VLF band by the report. :-) 73! Lubos=2C OK2BVG To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: markusvester@aol.com Date: Tue=2C 27 Mar 2012 17:22:42 -0400 Subject: VLF: DF6NM on 8970.002 It's a beautiful night! At 20:25=2C I have started up a straight carrier on= 8970.002 Hz (DHO locked). If all stays well I will leave it on until after= sunrise. =20 An interesting observation on the side: In the first few minutes=2C I drove= the amp up to 400 mA antenna current. A little corona became visible near = the ends of two of the three topload wires - it wasn't very bright=2C not u= nlike 3rd magnitude stars when viewed from the ground 10 m below. But the 9= kHz sound from antenna itself could be heard quite loudly=2C which is a po= tential cause for neighbourhood trouble.=20 =20 Then I reduced the drive to 350 mA where the corona disappeared completely.= So did the noise=2C the antenna became absolutely quiet! All that was left= was a little noise from the coil in the dustbin on the balcony=2C and the = transformer indoors. Thus the predominant cause for a squeaking antenna mus= t be corona. The fact that it can be heard at 9 rather than 18 kHz demonstr= ates that the discharge must have an asymmetric dependence on the voltage p= olarity. =20 At the same time=2C wideband electrical noise on the nearby LF grabber ante= nna went down by 20 dB.=20 =20 BTW If you like you can actually read my VLF frequency from an alias line o= n the LF TA grabber: It is created by the 24th VLF harmonic=2C intermodulat= ing with DCF 77=2C thus appearing on 24 x 8970.002 - 77500 =3D 137780.048 H= z. =20 Best regards=2C Markus (DF6NM) = --_d99944e6-9cbd-4834-a226-4412b0bbd7bf_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Markus=2C VLF!
Your signal is nice visible on my grabber in QRSS6= 000 and traces in QRSS600. In the 6000 window is evident=2C that we did our= VLF QSO in time=2C when the noise conditions were not the best. =3B
I have written an article about our qso in Czech. It will be publis= ed in a ham magazine "Radioamater"=2C common known in The Czech and Slovak = republic. Some hams would be encouraged to find VLF band by the report. :-)=

73!

Lubos=2C OK2BVG
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To: r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
From: markusvester@aol.com
Date: Tue=2C 2= 7 Mar 2012 17:22:42 -0400
Subject: VLF: DF6NM on 8970.002

It's a beautiful night! At 20:25=2C I have started up a straight carri= er on 8970.002 Hz (DHO locked). If all stays well I will leave it on until = after sunrise.
 =3B
An interesting observation on the side: In the first few minutes=2C I = drove the amp up to 400 mA antenna current. A little corona became visible = near the ends of two of the three topload wires - it wasn't very bright=2C = not unlike 3rd magnitude stars when viewed from the ground =3B10 m belo= w. But the 9 kHz sound from antenna =3Bitself could be heard quite loud= ly=2C which is a =3Bpotential cause =3Bfor =3Bneighbourhood tro= uble.
 =3B
Then I reduced the drive to 350 mA where the corona disappeared comple= tely. So did the noise=2C the antenna =3Bbecame absolutely quiet! All t= hat was left was a little =3Bnoise from the coil in the dustbin on the = balcony=2C and the transformer indoors. =3BThus the predominant cause f= or a squeaking antenna must be =3Bcorona. The fact that it can be heard= at 9 rather than 18 kHz =3Bdemonstrates that =3Bthe discharge must=  =3Bhave =3Ban asymmetric dependence on the voltage polarity.
 =3B
At the same time=2C wideband electrical noise on the nearby LF grabber= antenna went down by 20 dB.
 =3B
BTW If you like you can actually read my VLF frequency from =3Ban&= nbsp=3Balias line on the LF TA grabber: It is created by the 24th VLF harmo= nic=2C intermodulating with DCF 77=2C =3Bthus appearing on =3B24 x = 8970.002 - 77500 =3D 137780.048 Hz.
 =3B
Best regards=2C
Markus (DF6NM)
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