Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 90FFA3800008C; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 06:27:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1S8qpZ-0001sz-BT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:25:49 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1S8qpY-0001sq-S4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:25:48 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc1-s24.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.190.35]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1S8qpX-0000ZD-4K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:25:48 +0000 Received: from BAY154-W11 ([65.54.190.61]) by bay0-omc1-s24.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 17 Mar 2012 03:25:39 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [81.200.63.88] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: _RSGB_LF Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 11:25:39 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <8CED1D568912879-1568-4B17@angweb-usd004.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CED1D568912879-1568-4B17@angweb-usd004.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2012 10:25:39.0668 (UTC) FILETIME=[4CC34140:01CD0428] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_781f89f4-ed51-4f1b-92cc-b3886f02500c_" Subject: RE: VLF: MFSK-37 tests above 8970 today X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:386416832:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60154f6467041e90 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --_781f89f4-ed51-4f1b-92cc-b3886f02500c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Markus!I was thinking about a unknown signal on my grabber yesterday.= But it is clear now=2C it was you :-) ! I was pleased to see your signal i= n DFCW 600 and 6000 . GREAT! 73! Lubos=2C OK2BVG To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: markusvester@aol.com Date: Fri=2C 16 Mar 2012 17:46:42 -0400 Subject: VLF: MFSK-37 tests above 8970 today To explore the possibility of further two-way VLF contacts from my home ant= enna=2C I have conducted a test in MFSK-37 mode this morning. I was hoping = to reach 0.42 mHz ("6000") grabbers using UT-synchronized half-hour dashes.= Similar to an earlier kite experiment=2C I used absolute frequency encodin= g of characters in 1 mHz steps (0 =3D 8970.000=2C 1 =3D 8970.001=2C ... 9 = =3D 8970.009=2C idle =3D 8970.010=2C A =3D 8970.011=2C .. Z =3D 8970.036 Hz= ). =20 The plan was to transmit my complete callsign in 2.5 hours between 8:00 and= 10:30. Unfortunately DHO locking failed during the first two characters=2C= which came out some 9 mHz low. Attached image shows what was actually sent= according to my "monitor"=2C which is a high harmonic of the transmitted V= LF signal accidentally aliased into the LF TA window. =20 I was pleased to find all the dashes showing up clearly as bright dots on t= he OK2BVG "6000" grabber=2C and even left visible traces in his "600" windo= w. As I had also received Lubos' transmission last weekend with a good marg= in in 0.48 mHz=2C a two-way QSO between us would probably be feasible withi= n a few hours. =20 Paul Nicholson's 0.278 mHz super-sensitive spectrogram also shows the trans= mission at 120 degrees azimuth=2C even though the dashes were really too sh= ort to reach full SNR in this bandwidth. =20 Results on the DK7C grabber were not quite as good=2C with only a single cl= ear dot on .006 Hz. This may partly have been due to the previously experie= nced daytime minimum at our distance (180 km). Nothing distictive was visib= le at OE3GHB=2C who is at similar distance as OK2BVG=2C but seems to have s= uffered from a bit of local QRM at the time.=20 =20 Again we find that a great deal is possible with very modest means... =20 Best 73=2C Markus (DF6NM) =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 = --_781f89f4-ed51-4f1b-92cc-b3886f02500c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Markus!
I was thinking about a unknown signal on my grabber yeste= rday. But it is clear now=2C it was you :-) ! =3BI was pleased to see your signal in DFCW 600 and 6000 . GREAT= !

73!

Lubos=2C OK2= BVG





To: rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org
From: markusvester@aol.com
Date: Fri=2C 16 Mar 2012 17:4= 6:42 -0400
Subject: VLF: MFSK-37 tests above 8970 today

To explore the possibility of =3Bfurther two-way VLF contacts from= my home antenna=2C I have conducted a test in MFSK-37 mode this morning. I= was hoping to reach 0.42 mHz ("6000") grabbers using UT-synchronized half-= hour dashes. Similar to an earlier kite experiment=2C I used =3Babsolut= e frequency encoding =3Bof characters in 1 mHz steps (0 =3D 8970.000=2C= 1 =3D 8970.001=2C ... 9 =3D 8970.009=2C idle =3D 8970.010=2C A =3D 8970.01= 1=2C .. Z =3D 8970.036 Hz).
 =3B
The plan was to transmit my complete callsign in 2.5 hours between 8:0= 0 and 10:30. Unfortunately =3BDHO locking failed during the first two c= haracters=2C which came out =3Bsome 9 mHz low. Attached image shows wha= t was actually sent =3Baccording to my "monitor"=2C which is a high har= monic of the transmitted VLF signal accidentally aliased into the LF TA win= dow.
 =3B
I was =3Bpleased to find =3Ball the dashes showing up clearly = as bright dots on =3Bthe OK2BVG =3B"6000" grabber=2C and even left = visible traces in his "600" window. As I had also =3Breceived =3BLu= bos' transmission last weekend with a good margin in 0.48 mHz=2C a two-way = QSO between us would probably be feasible within a few hours.
 =3B
Paul Nicholson's 0.278 mHz super-sensitive spectrogram also shows = =3Bthe transmission at 120 degrees azimuth=2C even though the dashes were r= eally too short =3Bto reach full SNR in this bandwidth.
 =3B
Results on the DK7C grabber were not quite as good=2C with only a sing= le clear dot on .006 Hz. =3BThis may partly =3Bhave been due to the= previously experienced daytime minimum =3Bat our distance (180 km). No= thing distictive was visible at OE3GHB=2C =3Bwho is at similar distance= as OK2BVG=2C but seems to have =3Bsuffered from a bit of local QRM at = the time. =3B
 =3B
Again we find that a great deal is possible with very modest means...<= /div>
 =3B
Best 73=2C
Markus (DF6NM)
 =3B
 =3B
 =3B
 =3B
 =3B
 =3B
 =3B
 =3B
= --_781f89f4-ed51-4f1b-92cc-b3886f02500c_--