Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id A71C03800014A; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 14:03:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1S39Ty-0002N2-95 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 17:07:58 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1S39Tx-0002Mt-N1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 17:07:57 +0000 Received: from smtpout1.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.29] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1S39Tu-0000FC-OI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 17:07:57 +0000 Received: from AGB ([2.26.8.5]) by mwinf5d04 with ME id gH7o1i00606WpAS03H7oHC; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 18:07:48 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <4f4f8690.a250b40a.3912.ffffc9fe@mx.google.com><1330613782.55367.YahooMailNeo@web171602.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <006901ccf7cb$9b8a5de0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <006901ccf7cb$9b8a5de0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 17:07:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120301-0, 01/03/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Special Research Permit extension Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0093_01CCF7CD.D3C1C6B0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:450923232:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4094f4fc8053281 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0093_01CCF7CD.D3C1C6B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thales are behind the push to ultra wide navtext .. so that's = why 500 has been lost .. but probably did not expect a lower = frequency to be allocated ... so now will be dragging there feet = over the next un expected move .... same as DRM , as far as I know = the US has not adopted the system , from what I have seen of it = probably for the good , a silly over complicated system that will = net big $ if adopted ww=20 From: mal hamilton=20 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 4:50 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Special Research Permit extension According to some German radio amateurs heard on 80 metres it could take = years if ever to get a 500 licence. France does not seem to be in a = hurry either.=20 I found in the UK years back dealing directly with DTI in connection = with 6m permits they were very helpful, also the Post Office of = yesteryears when I got a 1 kW nov for HF around 1962, a few others had = similar licences. The local inspector would call to satisfy himself that = the person concerned had the knowledge and expertise to handle such a = station. In my case the Inspector was Fred Ward G2CVV G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Andy Talbot=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 4:25 PM Subject: Re: LF: RE: Special Research Permit extension The RSGB are now delegated for a fair number of routine am. licensing = jobs that would slow down and waste Ofcom's time. The govenerment = agency doesn't need to do the administration matters. That is why we = have one of the more efficient and useful amateur licensing schemes in = the world. And why we now have a free licence for ife instead of paying = an annulay renewal All the more reason to become a member of RSGB if you aren't already. Just look at the fiasco in the US when they want to do anything out of = the ordinary. Andy www.g4jnt.com =20 On 1 March 2012 14:56, M0FMT wrote: I am not sure this is right going through a non government agency = for a permit which should only be issued my the Government = establishment... call me old fashioned.=20 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX From: James Cowburn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, 1 March 2012, 14:24 Subject: LF: RE: Special Research Permit extension Mine too! 15 seconds!! See you Sunday!! -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of David Pratt Sent: 01 March 2012 13:39 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Special Research Permit extension An instant extension to my 501-504kHz NoV has been received by = e-mail attachment following completion of the form at = http://www.rsgb.org/500 73 de David G4DMP --=20 + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds. | | Website: http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + ------=_NextPart_000_0093_01CCF7CD.D3C1C6B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thales   are  behind the  push to  = ultra =20 wide   navtext   .. so  that's  why =20 500  has been  lost  .. but  probably   = did =20 not  expect a  lower  frequency to be  = allocated  ...=20 so  now  will  be dragging   there feet  = over=20 the  next un expected  move  .... same as DRM , as far = as I=20 know the  US has not  adopted the  system , from = what  I=20 have  seen  of it   probably  for the  = good , a=20 silly over  complicated  system that  will  net = big  $=20 if  adopted  ww

Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Special Research Permit=20 extension

According to some German radio amateurs heard on = 80 metres=20 it could take years if ever to get a 500 licence. France does not seem = to be in=20 a hurry either.
I found in the UK years back dealing directly = with DTI in=20 connection with 6m permits they were very helpful, also the Post Office = of=20 yesteryears when I got a 1 kW nov for HF around 1962, a few others had = similar=20 licences. The local inspector would call to satisfy himself that the = person=20 concerned had the knowledge and expertise to handle such a = station.
In my case the Inspector was Fred Ward = G2CVV
G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Andy=20 Talbot
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 = 4:25=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: RE: Special = Research=20 Permit extension

The RSGB are now delegated for a fair number of = routine=20 am. licensing jobs that would slow down and waste Ofcom's = time.  =20 The govenerment agency doesn't need to do the administration=20 matters.   That is why we have one of the more efficient and = useful=20 amateur licensing schemes in the world.  And why we now have a = free=20 licence for ife instead of paying an annulay renewal
 
All the more reason to become a member of RSGB if you aren't = already.
 
Just look at the fiasco in the US when they want to do anything = out of=20 the ordinary.
 
Andy


 
On 1 March 2012 14:56, M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk> = wrote:

I am not sure this is right going through a non government = agency for a=20 permit which should only be issued my the Government = establishment... call=20 me old fashioned.


73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
From: = James=20 Cowburn <james.cowburn@virgin.net>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Thursday, 1 March 2012, = 14:24
Subject: = LF: RE:=20 Special Research Permit extension

Mine too!  15 seconds!!

See you=20 Sunday!!

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of = David=20 Pratt
Sent: 01 March 2012 13:39
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: = Special=20 Research Permit extension

An instant extension to my = 501-504kHz NoV=20 has been received by e-mail
attachment following completion of = the form=20 at http://www.rsgb.org/500

73 de David = G4DMP
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