Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 8D5963800008E; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:49:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1SDEl0-0001SM-UM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:47:14 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1SDEl0-0001SD-E1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:47:14 +0100 Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.97]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1SDEkx-0006q0-OR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:47:14 +0100 Received: from mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.73]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q2TCl1am022599 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:47:01 -0400 Received: from core-msa003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.73]) by mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E6D82E000081 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:47:00 -0400 (EDT) References: <8CEDBB08CDC93E9-6B0-1108@webmail-m065.sysops.aol.com> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <8CEDBB08CDC93E9-6B0-1108@webmail-m065.sysops.aol.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Markus Vester X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 35834-STANDARD Received: from 194.138.39.62 by webmail-d130.sysops.aol.com (149.174.18.20) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:47:00 -0400 Message-Id: <8CEDBC12AC7C316-1D00-24AA@webmail-d130.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [194.138.39.62] Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:47:00 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1333025221; bh=GFQ8V/HqcB5tjJIB4SLIVPdqu7FqDZE5v4653lieFFY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AJa8p298XgUl0v89XnDxM0As89GIB+2Cf9DT1hSUWmpA8qNBaa9XvLOlI7TVSDRIi stcJizng8ITGWmDoO/Gd3wrNTQFQ/DhEcqLKLERfluNXVEltYqGHGasP9kJS+oeYCk tPioH4UOsK43rcA48iuWg1IF78WAsWdwT8vAAYG4= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:438104000:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_AOL_TAGS=0.281,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: VLF: DF6NM on 8970.002 - samplerate detector seems ok Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CEDBC12B69A162_1D00_7923_webmail-d130.sysops.aol.com" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_AOL_TAGS, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:463540448:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m011.2 ; domain : mx.aol.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4054f745a402cdc X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CEDBC12B69A162_1D00_7923_webmail-d130.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Just a short update: I tried a quick local test of the SR detector between = two instances of the latest SpecLab 277 b22. The SR detector engaged, and t= he generator output followed within seconds. So it seems SpecLab is not the= culprit for my transient frequency errors, and it's likely I did something= wrong during the transmissions (yes I'm sure I had not ticked "measure onl= y" box...). Best 73, Markus -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: Markus Vester An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Do, 29 Mrz 2012 12:49 pm Betreff: Re: VLF: DF6NM on 8970.002 - again tonight My transmission on 8970.002 went off air at 6:35 this morning, and the ante= nna was taken down for the next couple of days because of windy wx. =20 Unfortunately, the LF harmonic showed that again my frequency was not corre= ct during the first 90 minutes until about 22:30, with a similar behaviour = as yesterday, and also during an earlier MFSK transmission (see attached). = Immediately after starting SpecLab, the samplerate detector correctly measu= red the samplerate versus the DHO reference. The lock indicator turned gree= n after the first three blocks, and plausible samplerates were displayed at= all times. However the corrections were apparently not applied, and the ca= rrier from the signal generator still drifted with the soundcard crystal. A= fter more than an hour, the carrier suddenly jumped up by about 2 ppm, and = within the next 20 minutes settled to the final correctly locked frequency.= At first I thought it might be due to some glitch in my LF harmonic measur= ement or even at DHO38. But it seems to be reproducible so there may actual= ly be a subtle error in the samplerate tracking function. I was using SL 2.= 77 b08, and will try to look more deeply into this - a simple workaround ma= y be to start and lock SL a couple of hours before operation. =20 Thanks again for watching - it's fun to see the Dreamer's band so populated= ! =20 73, Markus (DF6NM) ----------MB_8CEDBC12B69A162_1D00_7923_webmail-d130.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
Just a short update: I tried a quick local test of the SR detecto= r between two instances of the latest SpecLab 277 b22. The SR detector enga= ged, and the generator output followed within seconds. So it seem= s SpecLab is not the culprit for my transient fr= equency errors, and it's likely I did something wrong during the trans= missions (yes I'm sure I had not ticked "measure only= " box...).
 
Best 73,
Markus
 
 
= -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Do, 29 Mrz 2012 12:49 pm
Betreff: Re: VLF: DF6NM on 8970.002 - again tonight

My transmission on 8970.002 went off air at 6:35 this morning, and the= antenna was taken down for the next couple of days because of windy wx.
 
Unfortunately, the LF harmonic showed that again my frequency was= not correct during the first 90 minutes until about 22:30, with a sim= ilar behaviour as yesterday, and also during an earlier MFSK tran= smission (see attached). Immediately after starting SpecLab, the = samplerate detector correctly measured the samplerate versus the DHO refere= nce. The lock indicator turned green after the first three blocks, and= plausible samplerates were displayed at all times. However the correc= tions were apparently not applied, and the carrier from the signa= l generator still drifted with the soundcard crystal. After more than = an hour, the carrier suddenly jumped up by about 2 ppm, and = within the next 20 minutes settled to the final correctly locked frequ= ency. At first I thought it might be due to some glitch in my LF harmo= nic measurement or even at DHO38. But it seems to be reproducible so t= here may actually be a subtle error in the samplerate tracking fu= nction. I was using SL 2.77 b08, and will try to look more deeply= into this - a simple workaround may be to start and lock SL a couple of ho= urs before operation.
 
Thanks again for watching - it's fun to see the Dreamer's band so= populated!
 
73, Markus (DF6NM)
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