Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 5ABE338000095; Fri, 2 Mar 2012 05:39:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1S3Psy-0007RX-Oq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 10:38:52 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1S3Psy-0007RO-BM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 10:38:52 +0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f171.google.com ([209.85.212.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1S3Psx-0007Vr-86 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 10:38:52 +0000 Received: by wibhj6 with SMTP id hj6so921124wib.16 for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 02:38:45 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of james.cowburn@virgin.net designates 10.180.92.227 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.92.227; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of james.cowburn@virgin.net designates 10.180.92.227 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=james.cowburn@virgin.net Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.92.227]) by 10.180.92.227 with SMTP id cp3mr3924304wib.13.1330684725949 (num_hops = 1); Fri, 02 Mar 2012 02:38:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.92.227 with SMTP id cp3mr3138202wib.13.1330684725848; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 02:38:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from (know-mailgateway-4.server.virginmedia.net. [62.254.26.109]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hn8sm7807053wib.11.2012.03.02.02.38.44 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 02 Mar 2012 02:38:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4f50a335.e86cb40a.10e9.7083@mx.google.com> Received: from source ([82.26.134.24]) by smtp.virginmedia.com with SMTP; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 10:38:45 +0000 (GMT) X-ProxyUser-IP: 82.26.134.24 From: "James Cowburn" To: Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 10:39:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Thread-Index: Acz4X+mAEE+EykYuQ1CvakHdkz2NKQAAGCJg X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmyRpa4rs1FsUqBHtb17rjMxcIh/hOrDHSUp5rSMcK6NiZepluifGJ6ujicLmaPnnCcVyEl X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0 Subject: RE: LF: RSGB Membership - Bit off topic. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:373940032:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40494f50a36d72bf X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none I suspect any incremental cost in my membership due to "non-member = support" is minimal! Most will be going on undoing the current fiscal mess the society is in, sorting out Bletchley and trying to sell that bloody = tower they bought! I don't imagine there's a lot of real money spent on negotiations, other than a quick trip from Bedford to London on Thameslink, a tube ride and = a coffee. Chris, I'll fund you mate! 73s Jim -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of David Pratt Sent: 02 March 2012 10:32 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RSGB Membership - Bit off topic. Bear in mind, Chris, the rest of us are subsidising you and other UK radio amateurs who are non members of the National Society. Negotiations with Ofcom, IARU Region 1 and the ITU (WRC2012, etc) do come at a cost and we're paying it for you :-( 73 de David G4DMP In a recent message, Chris writes >I was going to join the other day, after entering one of their 6m >contests, but was shocked to see the sub is =A351. Would have joined >there and then if it had been more like =A325. >Locally we have also over the years had many problems with the RSGB >over repeater licences. For instance, some of their requirements for >our ATV repeater could not be met - they were only suitable for 'phone >repeaters - and the endless delays... --=20 + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds. | | Website: http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - +