Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 50ECF380000C6; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:16:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1SAOBI-0002GV-7O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:14:36 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1SAOBH-0002GM-Nl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:14:35 +0000 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1SAOBE-0005sl-UM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:14:35 +0000 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q2LGEWl1007908 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 17:14:32 +0100 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id q2LGEW5Z010872 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 17:14:32 +0100 Message-ID: <4F69FE55.20800@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 17:14:13 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 1.6 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: LF: Re: Fwd: DK7FC ? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090606090302080007070808" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:485930304:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40494f69fec059b5 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090606090302080007070808 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi David, Markus, LF, Thanks for the information about Bob's capture. I forward this capture to the group, if we (Bob and me) want to have a official confirmation that these traces are accepted as a valid detection. We have to check if the transmit times are matching. Of course a bit clearer detection would be wishful but we are on the limit of what is possible with a non-commercial setup, far away from QSO mode and full call reception. Most odd for HF amateurs, probably ;-) Anyway an amateur generated signal that changed the brightness of a few pixels in a spectrogram on the right frequency and time :-) VK7ZL to DK7FC is a path of 16784 km, http://no.nonsense.ee/qthmap/?qth=QE37MF&from=jn49ik00wd, unbelivable. I hope there are some days left to see further traces which confirms things. Now i hope for Markus' detective help ;-) My grabber archive captures from yesterday, 20. March 2012, shows a C at 17:00 UTC, here discribed as a K in Bob's spectrogram. Actually i think there seem to be some bright pixels where one expects them if it would be a C. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/EU60_53273.jpg At ~19:25 UTC (the 7) i was actually transmitting a 7, see http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/EU60_53318.jpg For me that is convincing and so i would like to congratulate Bob/VK7ZL. Comments welcome. 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 20.03.2012 23:38, schrieb David VK2DDI: > Hi Stefan, > > Looks like Bob (QE37mf) had success last night. Nil from here. > > Regards, > > David. > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: DK7FC ? > Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 21:24:24 +0000 > From: Bob > To: David Isele > > > > Hi David > > I think I may have copied part of DK7FC [...] snipped. Picture from Bob at http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/VK7ZL_DK7FC.jpg (size to large for the reflector) > Or perhaps it is just wishful thinking. > > PS I notice your grabber clock is incorrect. > > Bob > > -- > VK7ZL NDB& Navtex Logging:http://tinyurl.com/255zfm2 > > > > > > --------------090606090302080007070808 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  Hi David, Markus, LF,

Thanks for the information about Bob's capture.
I forward this capture to the group, if we (Bob and me) want to have a official confirmation that these traces are accepted as a valid detection. We have to check if the transmit times are matching.
Of course a bit clearer detection would be wishful but we are on the limit of what is possible with a non-commercial setup, far away from QSO mode and full call reception. Most odd for HF amateurs, probably ;-) Anyway an amateur generated signal that changed the brightness of a few pixels in a spectrogram on the right frequency and time :-)

VK7ZL to DK7FC is a path of 16784 km, http://no.nonsense.ee/qthmap/?qth=QE37MF&from=jn49ik00wd, unbelivable. I hope there are some days left to see further traces which confirms things.
Now i hope for Markus' detective help ;-)

My grabber archive captures from yesterday, 20. March 2012, shows a C at 17:00 UTC, here discribed as a K in Bob's spectrogram. Actually i think there seem to be some bright pixels where one expects them if it would be a C. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/EU60_53273.jpg

At ~19:25 UTC (the 7) i was actually transmitting a 7, see http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/EU60_53318.jpg

For me that is convincing and so i would like to congratulate Bob/VK7ZL.

Comments welcome.

73, Stefan/DK7FC


Am 20.03.2012 23:38, schrieb David VK2DDI:
Hi Stefan,

Looks like Bob (QE37mf) had success last night.  Nil from here.

Regards,

David. 

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: DK7FC ?
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 21:24:24 +0000
From: Bob <vk7zl@internode.on.net>
To: David Isele <vk2ddi@internode.on.net>


Hi David

I think I may have copied part of DK7FC
[...]
snipped.
Picture from Bob at http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/VK7ZL_DK7FC.jpg (size to large for the reflector)


Or perhaps it is just wishful thinking.

PS  I notice your grabber clock is incorrect.

Bob

 
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VK7ZL NDB & Navtex Logging: http://tinyurl.com/255zfm2
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