Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dc06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 01DF53800008A; Sat, 3 Mar 2012 03:52:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1S3kgq-0006u9-DH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 08:51:44 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1S3kgq-0006u0-1S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 08:51:44 +0000 Received: from mail-ww0-f47.google.com ([74.125.82.47]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1S3kgm-0001ZZ-VG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 08:51:44 +0000 Received: by wgbdt13 with SMTP id dt13so1831025wgb.28 for ; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 00:51:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.89.71 with SMTP id bm7mr2131565wib.20.1330764695304; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 00:51:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from stbryant-mac2.lan (dyn45-155.adsl.bogons.net. [85.158.45.155]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d7sm24005294wiz.6.2012.03.03.00.51.33 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 03 Mar 2012 00:51:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F51DB94.3000401@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 08:51:32 +0000 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org CC: M0FMT References: <2B0975016B404FB0AAAFFF7FC887ECBC@IBM7FFA209F07C> <1330690891.71508.YahooMailNeo@web171604.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1330690891.71508.YahooMailNeo@web171604.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmGj0mdibhUsRhN1MFN7ekvITDDkV0YTqtjmtbNKO+Qa+0nYorL2OUWywAGeZAAsIV8Lx6C X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: RSGB Membership - Bit off topic. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:308641184:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40864f51dbe96b34 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none > I know I am tollerated on this reflector and could be barred at the drop > of a hat, so be it, but if an organisation like the RSGB can't look in > the mirror it will never change, it hasn't in the last 40years so its > unlikely to now. The consultations on http://rsgbdata.net/yabb/YaBB.pl are part of a process change experiment. Make constructive comments, use logic and evidence to argue your case and if you gain the consensus of the group your views will be reflected in the outcome. Stewart/G3YSX