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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:464182784:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m001.1 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d404d4f5933ce7057 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Stefan, No generally a geomagnetic event is a collision with a plasma cl= oud. If it "reconnects" i.e its field is southward pointing, Alarge number = of hot ions and electrons are injected into the ring current (van Allen reg= ion) these gradually leak/diffuse into the ionosphere and have the same eff= ect as daytime photo-ionised electrons.....they absorb RF. They are much ho= tter (higher energy....velocity) than the photo-ionised electrons so they l= ast all night too. the result can be an extra roughly 12db per hop (approx = 2000km) So it tends to wipe ot DX.=0A=0AThe good condx do not reappear when= the Kp returns to normal because rge ring current acts as a reservoir of t= his charge and it "leaks" into the ionosphere at the strained/distored edge= of the magnetoshere at the dawn edge. The Dst index is a measure of the ma= gnetic field at the equator due to this circulating trapped charge. So the = index acts like a fuel gauge indicating the quantity of trapped charge left= . rop conditions at LF will be affected until the index rises to -20nT (nan= oTeslas). this can in the event of a massive event take up to a month thoug= h odd days toards the end of the period may be better than others. =0A=0ASh= ort, one hop, paths will only see a slight effect. the attenuation is cumul= ative every time the signal needs to execute an ionospheric "bounce". My em= pirical "feel" for this is that it can be of the order of 6 to 12dB extra a= ttenuation per "bounce". Hence only a slight reduction of signal on the TF = grabber=0A=0AThe effect of signal attenuation after a mag storm is well doc= umented in professional papers including many by Jack Belrose VE2CV ....a g= iant in this area. It was only recently with satellite measurements that th= e reasons began to be understood. I caught up with this due to a contact in= NASA. =0A=0AIt is a very complex situation, that I dont pretend to fully u= nderstand.....but no-one has cuffed me round the ears and said "That's not = how it is"......with data to prove it....yet. So I keep sticking my neck ou= t :-))=0A=0AThe thing is thanks to many of the reports and help I have had = from the LF gang .......I can say ..."it seems to work" as a hypothesis (I = wouldn't dare call it a theory)=0A=0Ahttp://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk= /latest.htm is I am afraid out of date at the moment but there are lots of = useful URLs=0AAlan G3NYK=0A=0A=0A=0A--- On Thu, 8/3/12, Stefan Sch=E4fer wrote:=0A=0A> From: Stefan Sch=E4fer = =0A> Subject: Re: LF: What say the P= ropagation Gurus?=0A> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=0A> Date: Thursday, = 8 March, 2012, 20:26=0A> Hi Alan,=0A> =0A> What do you think, could the hig= h geomag activity be an=0A> improvement for the parth DL-> VK/ZL? The path = has a=0A> bearing of 79 deg from here, so maybe its good that the=0A> signa= ls coming through the auroral oval are well=0A> attenuated.=0A> This is the= path DK7FC -> VK1SV: http://no.nonsense.ee/qthmap/?qth=3DJN49IK&from=3Dqf4= 4mt=0A> =0A> 73, Stefan/DK7FC=0A> =0A> Am 07.03.2012 16:11, schrieb ALAN ME= LIA:=0A> > Sorry for letting you all down......after all those=0A> quiet pe= riods just as things get interesting, I have had a=0A> major PC crash and h= ave not rebuilt that machine=0A> yet(Idleness rules!). It has my html edito= r and images on=0A> it. I am keeping tabs on things with a notebook.=0A> > = =0A> > Unfortunately I dont have all the "research" bookmarks=0A> on this m= achine. The SWPC warning email suggests a Kp of 6=0A> from the first storm = but I believe there may be a bigger one=0A> on the way( arrive thursday nit= e or friday ). There is the=0A> possibility that the effects will be additi= ve leading to a=0A> prolonged period of poor conditions.=0A> > =0A> > The s= tate of the recovery is best indicated by the Dst=0A> index, and the rate i= t is returning towards -20 nT. I would=0A> not be surprised if conditions w= ere down for around 3 weeks,=0A> with localised better days in the lst week= . The consolation=0A> is that daytime propagation my improve for a couple o= f days=0A> after the mag storms, but it will never be better than the=0A> n= ight-time conditions.=0A> > =0A> > Alan=0A> > G3NYK=0A> >=A0 =A0 =0A> =0A>