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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="435439028-1341738944-1330690891=:71508" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:485905664:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d293.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d4ad14f50bb95061d X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --435439028-1341738944-1330690891=:71508 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Andy=0A=0AYou may be one of the more tolerable members of the RSGB and I= know you make incredilbly good, valuable=A0and open source contributions t= o the hobby. For that I thank you.=0A=0AHaving said that, there is an insuf= ferable group within the RSGB especially on VHF that make peoples life a mi= sery when=A0you or a group=A0try to do things out of the ordinary but defin= itly not affecting any one else's use of the bands.=A0=0A=0AI can site an i= ssue on 5megs would you believe, a band I thought that was clear of the dea= ded policeman since it was an NoV band and=A0not a band hijacked by the RSG= B. I joined the 5meg new band proposal=A0discussion group only for that to = start again. I just won't stand for jumped up people insulting me like that= any more, sorry. So I resigned "no great loss" I can hear you say.=0A=0AI = have been licensed since the early 70's and built gear=A0and operated regul= arly but I get very depressed when people still try to "Boss" you about in = the name of the RSGB.=0A=0AAnd anyway 51 quid a year is way too much and wh= o's pocket does go into, one has the right to ask?=0A=0AI know I am tollera= ted on this reflector and could be barred at the drop of a hat, so be it, b= ut if an organisation like the RSGB can't look in the mirror it will never = change, it hasn't in the last 40years so its unlikely to now.=0A=0AAnd no I= won't resign off this reflector you will have to push me off because this = is the one bright light MF/LF and ELF.=0A=0A=0A73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX= =0A=0A=A0=0AFrom: Andy Talbot =0ATo: rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org =0ASent: Friday, 2 March 2012, 9:36=0ASubject: Re: LF: RSGB Me= mbership - Bit off topic.=0A=0A=0AYes, and if more peolple joined it might = come down, and all the behind the scenes stuff could go ahead.=0ABut instea= d members get upset leave over little local issues.=A0=A0 (I nearly did it = once myself some years ago, but saw sense in time)=0A=0A'jnt=0A=0A=0A=A0=0A= On 2 March 2012 09:07, Chris wrote:=0A=0AHi All= ,=0A>Andy wrote:=0A>All the more reason to become a member of RSGB=A0if you= aren't already.=0A>I was going to join the other day, after entering one o= f their 6m contests, but was shocked to see the sub is =A351. Would have jo= ined there and then if it had been more like =A325.=0A>Locally we have also= over the years had many problems with the RSGB over repeater licences. For= instance, some of their requirements for our ATV repeater could not be met= - they were only suitable for 'phone repeaters - and the endless delays...= =0A>Vy 73,=0A>Chris, G4AYT. --435439028-1341738944-1330690891=:71508 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Andy
 
You may be one of the more tolerable members of = the RSGB and I know you make incredilbly good, valuable and open sourc= e contributions to the hobby. For that I thank you.
 
Having said that, there is an insufferable group= within the RSGB especially on VHF that make peoples life a misery when&nbs= p;you or a group try to do things out of the ordinary but definitly no= t affecting any one else's use of the bands. 
 
I can site an issue on 5megs would you believe, = a band I thought that was clear of the deaded policeman since it was an NoV= band and not a band hijacked by the RSGB. I joined the 5meg new band = proposal discussion group only for that to start again. I just won't s= tand for jumped up people insulting me like that any more, sorry. So I resi= gned "no great loss" I can hear you say.
 
I have been licensed since the early 70's and bu= ilt gear and operated regularly but I get very depressed when people s= till try to "Boss" you about in the name of the RSGB.
 
And anyway 51 quid a year is way too much and wh= o's pocket does go into, one has the right to= ask?
 
I know I am tollerated on this reflector and cou= ld be barred at the drop of a hat, so be it, but if an organisation like th= e RSGB can't look in the mirror it will never change, it hasn't in the last= 40years so its unlikely to now.
 
And no I won't resign off this reflector you wil= l have to push me off because this is the one bright light MF/LF and ELF.


73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
 
From:= Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@gmail.com>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Friday, 2 March 2012, 9:36
= Subject: Re: LF: RSGB Membe= rship - Bit off topic.

Yes, and if more peolple joined it might come down, and all the behind= the scenes stuff could go ahead.
But instead members get upset leave over little local issues. &nb= sp; (I nearly did it once myself some years ago, but saw sense in time)
 
'jnt


 
On 2 March 2012 09:07, Chris <c.ashby435@btinter= net.com> wrote:
Hi All,
Andy wrote:
All the more reason to become a member of RSGB if you aren't alre= ady.
I was going to join the other day, after entering o= ne of their 6m contests, but was shocked to see the sub is =A351. Would hav= e joined there and then if it had been more like =A325.
Locally we have also over the years had many proble= ms with the RSGB over repeater licences. For instance, some of their requir= ements for our ATV repeater could not be met - they were only suitable for = 'phone repeaters - and the endless delays...
Vy 73,
Chris, G4AYT.
=



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