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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:442850368:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m244.2 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d600e4f50b2945da5 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Less than 1 GBP per week - good value IMHO! The following is guaranteed in any hobby (certainly seen on this = reflector) - there will always be freeloaders who will: - criticise the valuable work of the volunteers but will not be prepared = to get off their own backsides and offer to do better - make negative and "clever" remarks without having a clue of the real = hard work that goes on unseen in the background ( a case in point is the = 472-479 kHz allocation - it was agreed by WRC07 as an agenda item for WRC12 so = at least five years technical and regulatory hard work by the IARU in the = ITU WRC and Regional preparatory groups. It got 42 EU countries supporting = plus the CITEL countries (North/South America) plus APT countries = (Asia-Pacific) plus ATU African countries. The Lead Spokesman on this agenda item for = the CEPT (all EU countries) was Colin Thomas - RSGB - that cost more than a Thameslink fare to London and a cup of coffee!).=20 The trouble with the internet is that it attracts the armchair critics. Soapbox ready for someone else now..... 73 Terry GW0EZY proud to be an RSGB member since 1972 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave Sergeant Sent: 02 March 2012 10:52 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: RSGB Membership - Bit off topic. A bit harsh Jim. The tower was sold a year ago at what it was bought=20 for. Bletchley opened last weekend and is budgeted for, admittedly a=20 bit over initial budgets. Remember if it weren't for the RSGB we certainly wouldn't have any of=20 our current LF allocations. Several members of the society (one of=20 which is now on the interim board) were the key players in negotiations=20 on this with IARU. And nobody else has commented, RSGB subs are =A347 with direct debit.=20 Fairly similar to other organisations of similar size. 73 Dave G3YMC On 2 Mar 2012 at 10:39, James Cowburn wrote: > I suspect any incremental cost in my membership due to "non-member > support" is minimal! Most will be going on undoing the current fiscal > mess the society is in, sorting out Bletchley and trying to sell that > bloody tower they bought! >=20 http://www.davesergeant.com