Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mp02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 939A23800009B; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 04:10:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1S321W-0007ck-LC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 09:10:06 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1S321W-0007cb-7Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 09:10:06 +0000 Received: from out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.239]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1S321U-0004QM-R9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 09:10:06 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlAGABk8T09cF/n2/2dsb2JhbABDiXeoMYFqgQiBeAUBAQQBCAEBA0kCJgYBAQMFAgEDEQQBAQEJHgcUAQQaBg0JCAYTCgECAgEBh3AJt2iNCA4BBAwHBAICUgkCAQGFAA8zHxgPgyIEiByFOppX X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.73,508,1325462400"; d="scan'208";a="377173072" Received: from host-92-23-249-246.as13285.net (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.23.249.246]) by out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 01 Mar 2012 09:09:58 +0000 Message-ID: <000901ccf78b$11437490$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <4f4f36e8.ca66b40a.2ec2.1c06@mx.google.com> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 09:09:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: RE: Re: End of 500kc/s NoV? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:493280384:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1dc1464f4f3d1b7425 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Well Jim you do have a point, which could be argued. Live dangerously for a day or too and continue!!! I personally am not in a hurry since CW is at a low ebb at present on the band I can see your Ulster posting is having a Positive influence on your decision making 73 de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Cowburn" To: Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:44 AM Subject: LF: RE: Re: End of 500kc/s NoV? > Hi All > > Im not a lawyer too (hence my poverty! :-) )I think that as they have > said these are now extended and we just need to complete the webforms, my > view would be there's enough daylight in the phrase to interpret either way > and I don't imagine for a minute that Ofcom will come in kicking our doors > down as long as we already hold an NOV. > > "Ofcom has therefore determined that, to allow these discussions to be > completed, the current NoVs to allow experimentation between 501 and 504 kHz > should have their validity extended to 31 December 2012. This notice > confirms this fact" > > For me the phrase "validity extended" is key here. Its not saying that new > NOV issues valid from some date to 31st Dec will be issues and the web page > is simply a way of saving OFCOM the paperwork, quite sensibly too, given all > the other stuff on their plate. > > Im considering mine extended and so will be on 500kcs on Sunday for the > usual Sunday morning net with XIZ and JXM if they join me > > I just need to revisit my maths now and redesign my coil for the 470s > > 73s and c u on 500 (WSPR/CW and I must try Opera too) > > > Jim G7NKS > > H > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of James Moritz > Sent: 29 February 2012 22:34 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: End of 500kc/s NoV? > > Dear Jim, Pete, LF Group, > > M0FMT wrote: > >Do the RSGB now issue amateur and experimental licences? > > No, the RSGB just handle some of the applications admin on behalf of Ofcom, > which generally simplifies and speeds things up for amateurs. Only Ofcom > have the authority to issue the NoVs. > > G7NKS wrote: > >I read this as "the validity has been extended to 31/12/12 from 29.02/12. > >not an expiry and a reissue with a new expiry of >31/12/12 so surely we can > > >continue as long as we apply on the webpage when it is up? > > Maybe - but I am not a lawyer ;-) Since the old NoVs expire tonight, and the > > new NoVs do not exist yet, you would be in a grey area where you were > entitled to the extension, but you would not have a currently valid licence > to use 501 - 504kHz. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > >