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(VPS 120227-0, 27/02/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 2.6 (++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TINY_FONT=1.425,SUBJ_RE_NUM=1.2 Subject: Re[2]: LF: NDBs & WRC-12 LF band allocation Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------=_MB57E08624-313D-4927-A1CF-8705668B1F30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:476127328:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d014.2 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4064f4bc1c72350 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --------=_MB57E08624-313D-4927-A1CF-8705668B1F30 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8 Ken, I would respectfully suggest that 17wpm is not slow! Colin - G8FRA/M5FRA www.m5fra.org.uk ------ Original Message ------ From: ken.h.wright@btinternet.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: 27/02/2012 16:56:54 Subject: Re: LF: NDBs & WRC-12 LF band allocation >Hi Mal. I must really try to get my speed up to 20wpm at present it is = >about 17wpm. I actually do prefer CW but am limited by my slow speed. >73 Ken. M0KHW Sent from my BlackBerry=C2=AE wireless device >From: "mal hamilton" >Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:45:19 -0000 >To: >ReplyTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: Re: LF: NDBs & WRC-12 LF band allocation > >Ken >I would suggest that those interested in the new MF band start >brushing up on their CW. >I have a couple of nice ex USAF mf RECEIVERS for this beacon band. >g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From:ken.h.wright@btinternet.com > To:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 3:52 PM > Subject: Re: LF: NDBs & WRC-12 LF band allocation > > About 3 miles even better I have a row of high vis solar lights in > the garden. On a more serious note I can see many problems on this > new to me it looks as it was done in a last minute rush to get > something out without looking for the unintended consequences. 73 ken = > M0KHW Sent from my BlackBerry=C2=AE wireless device > From: M0FMT > Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 15:15:44 +0000 (GMT) > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > ReplyTo: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: NDBs & WRC-12 LF band allocation > > > > Just you watch out Ken ... first key down on the new band, check out > of your living room window for an Easy Jet in frontal silhouette, wheels = down and locked with flaps set to 15 degrees > trying to touch down in your front garden...... not too far from > Luton AP are you? > > 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX > From: John Rabson > To:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Monday, 27 February 2012, 10:23 > Subject: LF: NDBs & WRC-12 LF band allocation > > Ken, > Unless there is a strong operational requirement, I suspect it will > depend on the running costs. > > 73 > John F5VLF > > On 27 Feb 2012, at 11:06CET, Ken wrote: > > >Dear all LFs > > > >With the WRC-12 new LF band allocation is it possible that any > >dormant NDBs there will be resurrected to justify their slot in the > >band? > > > >73s > > > >Ken > > > >M0KHW > > > --------=_MB57E08624-313D-4927-A1CF-8705668B1F30 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Ken, I would respectfully suggest that 17wpm is not slow! 
 
Colin - G8FRA/M5FRA
 
www.m5fra.org.uk


------ Original Message ------
From: ken.h.wright@btinter= net.com
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: 27/02/2012 16:56:54Subject: Re: LF: NDBs & WRC-12 LF band allocation
Hi Mal. I must really try to get= my speed up to 20wpm at present it is about 17wpm. I actually do prefer CW= but am limited by my slow speed. 73 Ken. M0KHW
Sent from my BlackBerry=C2=AE wireless device
From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:45:19 -0000
Subject: Re: LF: NDBs & WRC-12 LF band allocation

Ken
I would suggest that those interested in the new MF= band start brushing up on their CW.
I have a couple of nice ex USAF mf RECEIVERS for th= is beacon band.
g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 3:52= PM
Subject: Re: LF: NDBs & WRC-12 L= F band allocation

About 3 miles even better I have a row of high vis solar lig= hts in the garden. On a more serious note I can see many problems on this n= ew to me it looks as it was done in a last minute rush to get something out= without looking for the unintended consequences. 73 ken M0KHW
Sent from my BlackBerry=C2=AE wireless device
From: M0FMT <m0fmt@yaho= o.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 15:15:44 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Re: LF: NDBs & WRC-12 LF band allocation


 
Just you watch out Ken ... first key down on the= new band, check out of your living room window for an Easy Jet in frontal silhouette, wheels down and locked with flaps set to 15 degrees trying to= touch down in your front garden...... not too far from Luton AP are you?

73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO= 91UX
From:= John Rabson <john.ra= bson@numeo.fr>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
Sent: Monday, 2= 7 February 2012, 10:23
Subject: LF: NDBs & WRC-12 LF band allocation

Ken,

Unless there is a strong operational requirement, I suspect it will de= pend on the running costs.

73
John F5VLF

On 27 Feb 2012, at 11:06CET, Ken wrote:

Dear all LFs
 
With the WRC-12 new LF band allocation is it pos= sible that any dormant NDBs there will be resurrected to justify their slot= in the band?
 
73s
 
Ken
 
M0KHW



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