Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id E2AE3380000B4; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:47:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Rztmw-0004hG-OT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:46:06 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Rztmw-0004h7-26 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:46:06 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc1-s14.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.190.25]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Rztmu-0003qm-Hg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:46:06 +0000 Received: from BAY154-W40 ([65.54.190.61]) by bay0-omc1-s14.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:45:56 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [81.200.63.88] From: Lubos OK2BVG To: _RSGB_LF Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:45:56 +0100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Feb 2012 17:45:56.0718 (UTC) FILETIME=[AA3970E0:01CCF0C0] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_85d80659-a6ca-4fc2-9274-497d87af8535_" Subject: RE: LF: Band 472_479 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:458423712:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4094f43d89e5604 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --_85d80659-a6ca-4fc2-9274-497d87af8535_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Graham!...a back garden ... yesss=2C it is the right designation :-) Lubos=2C OK2BVG From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue=2C 21 Feb 2012 17:30:40 +0000 Subject: Re: LF: Band 472_479 >>build a new =20 BEAM ANTENNA on my garden<< =20 Now that's what I call =20 a back GARDEN !!!=20 =20 G.... : ) =20 =20 =20 From: Lubos OK2BVG=20 Sent: Tuesday=2C February 21=2C 2012 5:22 PM To: _RSGB_LF=20 Subject: LF: Band 472_479 Hello Petr and all OMs!=20 That is fine! Be lucky=2C you are 212km away :-) I was briefly receiving=20 on the new band as well. I listened to signals from NDB "RP"=2C "PT"=2C "V= IB"=2C=20 "BIA" : =20 477kHz 1018/1030 RP Malacky/Kuchyna=20 SVK JN88NL 475kHz 1014/1018 =20 PT Petrovskoye =20 RUS LO01CR 480kHz 1020/1025 =20 VIB Viterbo =20 ITA JN62AK 474kHz 1031/1034 =20 BIA Rzeszow/Jasionka POL =20 KO10BC Well=2C despite my problem with huge "RP" signal I am sure=2C that the=20 band will be usable for me. I am going to build a new beam antenna on my=20 garden. Its minimum receiving must be direct to "RP"=2C of course :-)=20 =20 73! Lubos=2C OK2BVG =20 From: p.maly@gmc.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue=2C 21 Feb=20 2012 14:32:56 +0100 Subject: Re: LF: Band 472_479 Hello all=2C =20 I am not so pesimistic=2C more exactly=2C I am a bit more lucky. I am abt 2= 12=20 km away from RP.=20 I made a first reception test this Sunday. RP is the strongest signal on=20 the band but it doesn=92t bother much. Besides it I heard two more beacons.= The=20 band is more spacy and much calmer than 136kHz. Looking forward to the day = it is=20 crowded by HAM sigs. =20 Listen to recordings at: http://ok1fig.nagano.cz/Band630m.htm =20 73=2C Petr=2C OK1FIG =20 =20 From: Lubos OK2BVG=20 Sent: Saturday=2C February 18=2C 2012 17:26 To: _RSGB_LF=20 Subject: LF: Band 472_479 =20 Hello OMs!=20 I read all your comments about new HAM band=2C they were written in the las= t=20 days. To tell the truth=2C to use this band will be a problem for me and a= ll=20 HAMS in our region. There is a Slovak NDB beacon "RP" located right between= 472=20 and 479kHz. =20 CALL : RP FREQ: 477kHz Modulation: +/- 1060Hz side bands QTH: Malacky/Kuchyna=20 QRA: JN88NL =20 =20 My QTH is only 37km far from the "RP". The beacon=B4s signal is=20 constantly at least +50dB up to noise (in fact +60dB in the modulation=20 gaps). The carrier is not problem=2C but the worst thing is the wide strong= noise=20 during the transmission. It is about +25dB - see the picture. I made sure=20 myself=2C that it was not a problem of my RX. The situation is the same=2C = when an=20 attenuator between antenna and RX is used.=20 =20 I hope that "RP" will not be a problem for you as well! =20 73 =20 Lubos=2C OK2BVG = --_85d80659-a6ca-4fc2-9274-497d87af8535_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Graham!
...a back garden ... yesss=2C it is the right designation= :-)

Lubos=2C OK2BVG

From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk<= br>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Tue=2C 21 Feb 2012 17:30:40 +0= 000
Subject: Re: LF: Band 472_479

 =3B>=3B>=3Bbuild a new = =3B=20 BEAM =3B =3BANTENNA =3B on my garden<=3B<=3B
 =3B
Now  =3Bthat's =3B what = =3B I call =3B=20 a =3B back =3B =3B GARDEN !!!
 =3B
G.... =3B : ) =3B
 =3B
 =3B

Sent: Tuesday=2C February 21=2C 2012 5:22 PM
Subject: LF: Band 472_479

Hello Petr and all OMs!=20
That is fine! Be lucky=2C you are 212km away :-)
I was briefly rece= iving=20 on the new band as well. I listened to signals from NDB  =3B"RP"=2C "PT= "=2C "VIB"=2C=20  =3B"BIA" :  =3B

477kHz  =3B  =3B1018/1030  =3B  =3BRP  =3B  = =3BMalacky/Kuchyna=20  =3B  =3B  =3B SVK  =3B JN88NL
475kHz  =3B =3B =3B1014/101= 8  =3B=20  =3BPT  =3B  =3BPetrovskoye  =3B  =3B  =3B  =3B=  =3B  =3B=20  =3BRUS  =3B LO01CR
480kHz  =3B  =3B1020/1025  = =3B=20  =3BVIB  =3B Viterbo  =3B  =3B  =3B  =3B  =3B &= nbsp=3B  =3B  =3B=20  =3B  =3B ITA  =3B  =3BJN62AK
474kHz  =3B  =3B1031/1034  = =3B=20  =3BBIA  =3B Rzeszow/Jasionka  =3B  =3B POL  =3B=20  =3BKO10BC

Well=2C despite my problem with huge  =3B"RP" signal I am sure=2C = that the=20 band will be  =3Busable for me. I am going to build a new beam antenna = on my=20 garden. Its minimum receiving must be direct to "RP"=2C of course :-)=20  =3B =3B

73!

Lubos=2C OK2BVG


 =3B
From: p.maly@gmc.net
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Tue=2C 21= Feb=20 2012 14:32:56 +0100
Subject: Re: LF: Band 472_479

Hello all=2C
 =3B
I am not so pesimistic=2C more exactly=2C I am a bit more lucky. I am = abt 212=20 km away from RP.
I made a first reception test this Sunday. RP is the strongest signal = on=20 the band but it doesn=92t bother much. Besides it I heard two more beacons.= The=20 band is more spacy and much calmer than 136kHz. Looking forward to the day = it is=20 crowded by HAM sigs.
 =3B
Listen to recordings at:
 =3B
73=2C Petr=2C OK1FIG
 =3B
 =3B
Sent: Saturday=2C February 18=2C 2012 17:26
Subject: LF: Band 472_479
 =3B
Hello OMs!=20
I read all your comments about new HAM band=2C they were written in th= e last=20 days. To tell the truth=2C to use this band =3B will be a problem for m= e and all=20 HAMS in our region. There is a Slovak NDB beacon "RP" located right between= 472=20 and 479kHz.
 =3B
CALL : RP
FREQ: 477kHz
Modulation: =3B =3B =3B +/- 1060Hz side bands
QTH: Malacky/Kuchyna
QRA: JN88NL =3B =3B
 =3B
My QTH is only 37km far from the "RP". The beacon=B4s signal is=20 constantly =3B at least +50dB up to noise (in fact +60dB in the modulat= ion=20 gaps). The carrier is not problem=2C but the worst thing is the wide strong= noise=20 during the transmission. It is about +25dB - see the picture. I made sure=20 myself=2C that it was not a problem of my RX. The situation is the same=2C = when an=20 attenuator between antenna and RX is used.
 =3B
I hope that "RP" will not be a problem for you as well!
 =3B
73
 =3B
Lubos=2C OK2BVG
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