Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mg02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id CD3E038000081; Wed, 15 Feb 2012 04:24:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Rxb5F-0001Mm-R7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:23:29 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Rxb5F-0001Md-B3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:23:29 +0000 Received: from rhcavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.130] helo=cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Rxb5D-0000aF-JS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:23:29 +0000 X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-ID: 8671E1280CE.A51B3 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8671E1280CE for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:23:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-HUB2.luna.kuleuven.be (icts-s-hub2.luna.kuleuven.be [10.112.9.16]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ACC5F3864 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:23:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-MBX5.luna.kuleuven.be ([fe80::312b:f3bc:9c4:4ebb]) by ICTS-S-HUB2.luna.kuleuven.be ([fe80::8559:ca7c:e195:e15d%26]) with mapi id 14.01.0355.002; Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:23:15 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Thread-Topic: 472-479 kHz - no illusions for DL Thread-Index: AQHM670OxvkH5J3O3ECpvN9NEuW+EJY9rtI6 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:23:14 +0000 Message-ID: <7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A015AB0@ICTS-S-MBX5.luna.kuleuven.be> References: <6C05E5021A484E229E4D20124C3D4AA9@TraceyPC> <002d01cceb30$87c42cc0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> , <4F3A8CD2.6090206@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>, In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: nl-BE, en-US Content-Language: nl-BE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.112.13.12] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: LF: RE: 472-479 kHz - no illusions for DL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A015AB0ICTSSMBX5lunakule_" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:448522464:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60ca4f3b79c26d27 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --_000_7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A015AB0ICTSSMBX5lunakule_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Horst, if I remember well Germany was one of the first countries to allow 136kHz (= although with special licences). So there might be hope. 73, Rik ON7YD ________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ] namens "Horst St=F6cker" [horst.stoecker@web.de] Verzonden: woensdag 15 februari 2012 9:34 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: 472-479 kHz - no illusions for DL Hello Stefan, hello Walter, the VO Funk / Radio Regulation is international law. I am in doubt if this = will be fully implemented in national law in Germany very soon. In the past= our Bundesnetzagentur did not see the VO Funk as MUST but as CAN. The Bun= desnetzagentur itself will not be interested in actualisation of the Freque= nzzuweisungsplanverordnung, the Frequenznutzungsplan and the Amateurfunkver= ordnung. Funny words that sound as complicated as german authorities work .= . . So it depends on the DARC. But I do not expect much from them. If they woul= d really bring us on 472kHz within 2012 this was really a reason to join th= e club again. Horst Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Februar 2012 um 17:33 Uhr Von: "Stefan Sch=E4fer" An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: LF: Re: Re: WRC-12 Approves the New 472-479 kHz Amateur Radio = Allocation Hello Walter, What do you think, how long will it take (about) until the local VO Funk is updated, i.e. when can we start to TX on 600m? Rather a month, or 6 or 1 year? 73, Stefan Am 14.02.2012 17:24, schrieb Walter Staubach: > Mal, > VFO and antenna already retuned. As soon as "VO Funk" will > contain the new band we can make our CW-qso. > 73 > Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG > > SMS schreiben mit WEB.DE FreeMail - einfach, schnell und kostenguenstig. Jetzt gleich testen! http://f.web.de/?mc=3D021192 --_000_7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A015AB0ICTSSMBX5lunakule_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Horst,

 

if I remember well Germany was one of the first countries to&nb= sp;allow 136kHz (although with specia= l licences).

So there might be hope.

 

73, Rik  ON7YD

 

Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [ow= ner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens "Horst St=F6cker" [horst= .stoecker@web.de]
Verzonden: woensdag 15 februari 2012 9:34
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: 472-479 kHz - no illusions for DL

Hello Stefan, hello Walter,
the VO Funk / Radio Regulation is international law. I am in doubt if = this will be fully implemented in national law in Germany very soon. In the= past our Bundesnetzagentur did not see the VO Funk as MUST but as CAN.&nbs= p; The Bundesnetzagentur itself will not be interested in actualisation of the Frequenzzuweisungsplanverordnung= , the Frequenznutzungsplan and the Amateurfunkverordnung. Funny words that = sound as complicated as german authorities work . . .
So it depends on the DARC. But I do not expect much from them. If they= would really bring us on 472kHz within 2012 this was really a reason to jo= in the club again.
Horst





Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Feb= ruar 2012 um 17:33 Uhr
Von: "Stefan Sch=E4fer" <Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-h= eidelberg.de>
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: Re: LF: Re: Re: WRC-12 Approves the New 472-479 kHz Am= ateur Radio Allocation
Hello Walter,

What do you think, how long will it take (about) until the local VO Funk is updated, i.e. when can we start to TX on 600m? Rather a month, or 6
or 1 year?

73, Stefan


Am 14.02.2012 17:24, schrieb Walter Staubach:
> Mal,
> VFO and antenna already retuned. As soon as "VO Funk" will <= br> > contain the new band we can make our CW-qso.
> 73
> Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG
>
>



  

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