Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id AB84838000088; Wed, 15 Feb 2012 05:53:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RxcTA-0001vE-G6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:52:16 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RxcT9-0001v5-Tp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:52:15 +0000 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.100.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RxcT8-0001Uf-M6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:52:15 +0000 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q1FAqDr1014521 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:52:13 +0100 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id q1FAqDms018869 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:52:13 +0100 Message-ID: <4F3B8E34.7060802@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:51:32 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?U3RlZmFuIFNjaMOkZmVy?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <6C05E5021A484E229E4D20124C3D4AA9@TraceyPC> <002d01cceb30$87c42cc0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> , <4F3A8CD2.6090206@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 1.6 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: 472-479 kHz - no illusions for DL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050205010606040202050505" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:452297792:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40554f3b8ea276a7 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050205010606040202050505 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay.uni-heidelberg.de id q1FAqDr1014521 Hello Horst , I hope your pessimistic view applies only to MF, not to the whole=20 amateur radio hobby or even your whole live. I am rather optimistic and very happy and thankful to those who worked=20 hard over a long time to reach what was achieved now on the WRC-2012!=20 Also i am very optimistic that we can transmit on 600m "soon". However i=20 will not start to build a RX or a PA for 475 kHz unless the date when we=20 can start to transmit isn't definitively fixed for DL. 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 15.02.2012 09:34, schrieb "Horst St=C3=B6cker": > Hello Stefan, hello Walter, > the VO Funk / Radio Regulation is international law. I am in doubt if=20 > this will be fully implemented in national law in Germany very soon.=20 > In the past our Bundesnetzagentur did not see the VO Funk as MUST but=20 > as CAN. The Bundesnetzagentur itself will not be interested in=20 > actualisation of the Frequenzzuweisungsplanverordnung, the=20 > Frequenznutzungsplan and the Amateurfunkverordnung. Funny words that=20 > sound as complicated as german authorities work . . . > So it depends on the DARC. But I do not expect much from them. If they=20 > would really bring us on 472kHz within 2012 this was really a reason=20 > to join the club again. > Horst > > > > > > *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 14. Februar 2012 um 17:33 Uhr > *Von:* "Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer" > *An:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Betreff:* Re: LF: Re: Re: WRC-12 Approves the New 472-479 kHz Amateur=20 > Radio Allocation > Hello Walter, > > What do you think, how long will it take (about) until the local VO Fun= k > is updated, i.e. when can we start to TX on 600m? Rather a month, or 6 > or 1 year? > > 73, Stefan > > > Am 14.02.2012 17:24, schrieb Walter Staubach: > > Mal, > > VFO and antenna already retuned. As soon as "VO Funk" will > > contain the new band we can make our CW-qso. > > 73 > > Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG > > > > > > > > > > SMS schreiben mit WEB.DE FreeMail - einfach, schnell und > kostenguenstig. Jetzt gleich testen! *http://f.web.de/?mc=3D021192* > --------------050205010606040202050505 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay.uni-heidelberg.de id q1FAqDr1014521 Hello Horst ,

I hope your pessimistic view applies only to MF, not to the whole amateur radio hobby or even your whole live.

I am rather optimistic and very happy and thankful to those who worked hard over a long time to reach what was achieved now on the WRC-2012! Also i am very optimistic that we can transmit on 600m "soon". However i will not start to build a RX or a PA for 475 kHz unless the date when we can start to transmit isn't definitively fixed for DL.

73, Stefan/DK7FC

Am 15.02.2012 09:34, schrieb "Horst St=C3=B6cker":
Hello Stefan, hello Walter,
the VO Funk / Radio Regulation is international law. I am in doubt if this will be fully implemented in national law in Germany very soon. In the past our Bundesnetzagentur did not see the VO Funk as MUST but as CAN.=C2=A0 The Bundesnetzagentur itself will not be interested in actualisation of the Frequenzzuweisungsplanverordnung, the Frequenznutzungsplan and the Amateurfunkverordnung. Funny words that sound as complicated as german authorities work . . .
So it depends on the DARC. But I do not expect much from them. If they would really bring us on 472kHz within 2012 this was really a reason to join the club again.
Horst





Gesendet:=C2=A0Dienstag, 1= 4. Februar 2012 um 17:33 Uhr
Von:=C2=A0"Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer" <Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>
An:=C2=A0rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff:=C2=A0Re: LF: Re: Re: WRC-12 Approves the New 472-479 kH= z Amateur Radio Allocation
Hello Walter,

What do you think, how long will it take (about) until the local VO Funk
is updated, i.e. when can we start to TX on 600m? Rather a month, or 6 or 1 year?

73, Stefan


Am 14.02.2012 17:24, schrieb Walter Staubach:
> Mal,
> VFO and antenna already retuned. As soon as "VO Funk" will
> contain the new band we can make our CW-qso.
> 73
> Walter DJ2LF / DI2AG
>
>



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