Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id D878A380000F7; Thu, 9 Feb 2012 16:03:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Rvavn-0001Wn-KR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:49:27 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Rvavn-0001We-7m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:49:27 +0000 Received: from out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.238]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Rvavl-0002ny-R8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:49:27 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBABExNE9OlmPh/2dsb2JhbAAMN7JVAQEBAQM4QBELCQgEAQEBCRYPCQMCAQIBPQgTBgIBAcE+i2cwDAEFBAMEBAcOBgEDCAEEIoNke4MdBI1kmi4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.73,391,1325462400"; d="scan'208";a="385036520" Received: from host-78-150-99-225.as13285.net (HELO [192.168.2.5]) ([78.150.99.225]) by out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net with ESMTP; 09 Feb 2012 20:49:20 +0000 Message-ID: <4F34313C.1080005@talktalk.net> Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:49:00 +0000 From: qrss User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129 Thunderbird/10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4F341AE5.1050704@talktalk.net> <4F342525.1050200@talktalk.net> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: Cats among pigeons Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:521332160:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4074f3434991f16 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none The worse question you could ask. The decodes fall off at the same signal level resulting from the same TX Power, however OP8 reports -31dB and OP4 reports -28dB I call that worse. In other words I had a -37dB report from ON6EO, sounds good but would OP4 have been -34dB. I know you knew what I meant anyway. E On 09/02/2012 20:29, Graham wrote: > worse ? is that worse as in fails to decode or decodes at a > worse s/n ? , perhaps worst was the worst word to use to > describe a worsening situation , by only making things worse ? > > G.. > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "qrss" > Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 7:57 PM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: Cats among pigeons > >> Yes OP8 decodes but almost always either equal S/N or worse. >> >> E >> >> On 09/02/2012 19:40, Graham wrote: >>> Interesting Ed. >>> >>> I would go for OP2 on 500 , that was the speed that >>> produced the best results at the start , did you have any OP8 >>> decodes? >>> >>> G. >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "qrss" >>> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 7:13 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: LF: Cats among pigeons >>> >>>> This one worked before also on the G3ZJO G0KTN path:- >>>> >>>> After dark QSB starts on 500kHz even OP4 can become a struggle, the >>>> PA0AM path again. >>>> >>>> 18:52 18105 PA0AM Op1 -22 dB 322 km Actually on 500kHz >>>> 18:50 18105 PA0AM Op2 -25 dB 322 km Actually on 500kHz >>>> 18:41 18105 PA0AM Op2 -18 dB 322 km Actually on 500kHz >>>> >>>> This could explain why WSPR does so well. >>>> >>>> Eddie G3ZJO >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >