Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dl05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id AE5C4380000D5; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 12:25:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ryo0u-0000sY-Ig for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 17:24:00 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ryo0u-0000sP-4J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 17:24:00 +0000 Received: from nm4-vm0.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([212.82.108.93]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ryo0t-0007x1-KV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 17:24:00 +0000 Received: from [212.82.108.228] by nm4.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2012 17:23:54 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.227] by tm1.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2012 17:23:53 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1004.bt.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2012 17:23:53 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 984764.6405.bm@omp1004.bt.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 87547 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2012 17:23:53 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=fZ2kL9v9rx3iKxRyZ165RFfV/r2Zt56be+KCJH6Ejlha7InsbIKQTHt8Fkc8F2bDNEMGeGenHbg83O+R26xI+pQ0ETmYWRi02/ABJGuax64gqPyTg2M5K2oeDsGMsk1ACJrQ41KK9Tlxc2QC4/cowPrfwQaAGjTAZroLWSVhzTg= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btopenworld.com; s=s1024; t=1329585833; bh=IFvPc1sXITSAB+k1JgTPBScuN0VnSuuSacjVtqi0OCc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=GAdEYZG08zq4yXhmtygI1LipHOAj6+TzwTqIrmD+5eTbp5kfRSUQg6pVFn8BAUofBYvkiqelhR/d26blgpUoOCAZIzK66qXbX/a/Tp7K8OT47qIS2Sh/qaV2RDAiG5wqCcuxXx+dfk8I9FyY7TFMESuS4v8CbqCaho7CZIlCwts= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: JzU94kwVM1nACUxJ1qlTmsH5zbDyQIz6Zr.sDCmmQVhnSp0 gaykPkQdYnFEGIYDM5ddJLrmzqrgG.BG_OOpRWk0_.fn2lH1T8D.XrQ9Ur9X exxwmdMjoGJM5qFbOFIx3i3DpjTSIT6cch479J5Mc5jHZyNvV_2Y2EMTqFBZ fP_PJLgNSR.9dap6bZFyZom3q9O2tKOjTQ82nKL6I41erRQV6i.PSUFw.HxL 4N38f9VFvnutkfbtL3uCOAnZJqdngbsqYIpKS9b8b_f6WcBE3FwZGwKu0T.R 4ILbzfuZpa6N1BnHUTrYSSDj7oJ3cbUIJlkpQWUaj2QBTPZUeSJwndR6eDou KxhvuEkkPNv3pYBMt__N4REJilfgSHmum_gP3JBF6Hke9jYXiAY2NBVHhysu 0QsxUOzesiyDxjHcGlTEfGgOprZ004JXQ X-Yahoo-SMTP: Cxhli3eswBD1ozmtAojhjrja86kWx0Qm9tycD5QR1DKWrOLgjJcXkw-- Received: from JimPC (james.moritz@86.185.144.57 with login) by smtp819.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 2012 17:23:53 +0000 GMT Message-ID: <483168E1E5944A0C9E89062E2DA3BA3E@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 17:24:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Band 472_479 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-2"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:433124480:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d234.2 ; domain : btopenworld.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d4ad34f3fdefb0f33 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Dear Lubos, LF Group, I have a similar problem operating on 500kHz (and it will also be similar for 475 kHz) at my QTH. In my case the source of wideband QRM appears to be low-level sidebands of broadcast stations (there are 4 broadcast TXs within 1km of my QTH with 400kW total power). The noise has a continuous spectrum, and is about 20dB above the band noise level. Using a vertical antenna, it is only possible to hear local signals, but over the years I have been reasonably succesful using simple loop antennas, or loop and vertical antennas combined with a phasing network, to produce a directional null that practically eliminates the QRM from this source. Of course, the limitation of this technique is that wanted signals are also eliminated if they are in the same direction as the noise source; unfortunately the BC transmitters are east of my QTH, making it difficult to receive stations in mainland Europe, but signals from most of the UK, Scandinavia and North America are not seriously affected, and much reception is still possible. In your situation, using an antenna with a directional null would also have the advantage of reducing the level of the beacon signal itself. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU