Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mh01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 4EC1D3800008D; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 19:47:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1S1oje-0004hm-Ky for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2012 00:46:38 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1S1oje-0004hd-2V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2012 00:46:38 +0000 Received: from nm3.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([212.82.108.234]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1S1ojc-0004Wv-Do for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2012 00:46:38 +0000 Received: from [212.82.108.231] by nm3.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2012 00:46:30 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.224] by tm4.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2012 00:46:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1001.bt.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2012 00:46:30 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 409243.16384.bm@omp1001.bt.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 52803 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Feb 2012 00:46:30 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1330303590; bh=DRz7IfxDrKcwvQSbGFH7/P241+yJlyj12isu3MtF3dc=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tJGaNQqFQWS34Cz3tM6dx3zqxZgHjNGPwa2gLNwdyERNxhsW2YQM+cAgPFyt/T9a/I4cK2zjcGtbHXTrDJr7rsGqG6Jrgmo8hWUBfoc+UbvmHT9SkPzIK1YiH0JCUZMJ+eEOecir2EH3lwYBkoh5LzaCES7aiCKYyyujknqiGbM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=DXSZ9mcCA13JwI5x5Dvwh8/gpmMVryIwr2kzyPEkt9dhaLybvRvhSe5RC1pBQeMwSrmHDKF5GrlvaHadDYl3R+V5Vvw50Q5KDLNEuUWpaL7ufHoFn6XxcWoEZwikvUrC2g+U5XZgzwpOeqzujNV18XkuvfjoSecWN+gq19oJHSs=; X-YMail-OSG: 5l38j5YVM1ny432uq3LbKy3EDjt8sK0Qzipfy0.rkqMvF8B W5YWTRNgLjkvL.L_dScIZPljcTSrMZy.WCxKcfk94d7OrAkJR2MH2f1VqNcT 5to4llcoHsuUY0C_tP8vqMFfSE.NsQ6uD15SCnop8LWGIsixIoR4zyscanUj opo92yLYnQt0r7iF24VKUkKuQp3qYRTPGKF2H8CetwgXQEEPMCLAmGSIZpLR BgR6dnBTcTv4upwvbPmjggHum.tz9vniqOMMeJGTANoZXiM.CArxNX1hQYhM CEahD49mF3ANBoE_0pfdZHnePZER_RW9yEwHLE2saVZEAyhFS8XefoHvKl1X ZHx.somGEPtcZrSj78GOes1.yTL5dpI2q.9AUAJRwNj7XZWPTDvncz41Tgcf 2Ula1uKx0iAtLBihzyZEPDxn7LT0FAN2CyOnl22epnPIZGyOrKvyaxigYRQw M.te8HcdT6ss9Nz2KFiSUztV6Jhh8rCQvzyQSAAjCxcCGefQWfeecLKnFc9E S Received: from [109.145.212.63] by web86506.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Feb 2012 00:46:30 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.116.338427 Message-ID: <1330303590.42709.YahooMailClassic@web86506.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 00:46:30 +0000 (GMT) From: ALAN MELIA To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4F4ABC89.6090800@m0dts.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Broad signal (noise?) on 137.000KHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:431549376:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m024.2 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60d54f4ad2a37171 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Rob, it has hardly been active in the last 5 years mainly daylight even = then.....humourously refered to as spider roasting. Occasionaly during the = snow and ice to clear the accumulations off the umbrella wires. We were exp= ecting more activity when the UK sold some surplus diesel subs to Canada...= ..must have been around 2005 ..... unfortunately one had a fire off the nor= th coast of Ireland during the passage home, and I think their commissionin= g was deferred. =0A=0AWe never heard CFH regularly again after that. Origin= ally 1999/2000 it was transmitting rtty 82Hz shift FSK 24/7, but installed = a new TX for multi-channel msk around 2003/4 but hardly used it. The new mo= d is a lot wider than the rtty but there seems to be at least 6 separate ch= annels rather than the one on their rtty. LF txs use a lot of electricity != !=0A=0AI used to have some pictures of the TX and the antenna and tuning hu= t, thanks to my "mole".....one of the techs on site. They are probably buri= ed =0Aon an old HD.=0A=0AAlan=0AG3NYK=0A=0A=0A--- On Sun, 26/2/12, Rob, M0D= TS wrote:=0A=0A> From: Rob, M0DTS =0A> S= ubject: Re: LF: Broad signal (noise?) on 137.000KHz=0A> To: rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org=0A> Date: Sunday, 26 February, 2012, 23:13=0A> Alan,=0A> =0A>= Thanks for the information..=A0 I've only been back=0A> listening 136 for = a =0A> month or so and i had not noticed it until last night, last=0A> time= i was =0A> on in 2007 i don't think i heard it either so must be varied=0A= > in it's =0A> operation.=0A> The 40kW is doing well anyway, s-meter stuck = at s7 here...=0A> gmsk sounds=A0 =0A> bit like noise really ;-)=0A> =0A> Ro= b=0A> M0DTS=0A> =0A> On 26/02/2012 22:29, ALAN MELIA wrote:=0A> > Hi Rob th= at is not noise that is one of the oldest=0A> residents of the band=0A> > := -)) It is the Canadian Naval station at Newport Corner=0A> nr Halifax Nova = Scotia.It is nor unusual for it tobe 30 to=0A> 40dB over the noise level. I= tis a good indication of=0A> propagation conditions as was the stimulus for= the first TA=0A> attempts on 137kHz.=0A> > The station is transmitting at = about 40kW ERP from a=0A> new but barely used Harris TX the modulation is m= ost likely=0A> GMSK and it is capable of multichannel independent sideband= =0A> operaton. It generally is used for submarine comms., but has=0A> been = very quiet in recent years.=0A> >=0A> > Alan G3NYK=0A> >=0A> >=0A> > --- On= Sun, 26/2/12, Rob, M0DTS=A0=0A> wrote:=0A> >=0A> >> From:= Rob, M0DTS=0A> >> Subject: LF: Broad signal (noise?) on 1= 37.000KHz=0A> >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=0A> >> Date: Sunday, 26 F= ebruary, 2012, 22:09=0A> >> Hi All,=0A> >> I'm getting a broad signal at 13= 7KHz on evenings=0A> with=0A> >> gradual increase in strength as the evenin= g goes on=0A> plus=0A> >> some qsb.=0A> >> It seems to be very stable cente= red on 137.000 and=0A> is 300Hz=0A> >> wide, see the screen grab below.=0A>= >>=0A> >> The same signal is received about 17km away too by=0A> another= =0A> >> station at similar strength so wondered if anyone=0A> else hears=0A= > >> it?=0A> >>=0A> >> http://www.m0dts.co.uk/files/capt1202262156.jpg=0A> = >>=0A> >>=0A> >> Rob=0A> >> M0DTS=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >=0A> =0A> =0A>