Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id C6342380000AA; Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:24:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RyPem-0004F9-9L for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:23:32 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RyPel-0004F0-LP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:23:31 +0000 Received: from out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.240]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RyPej-0005yf-55 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:23:31 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao0JAHJwPk9cHYkt/2dsb2JhbABDmySUDAEBgVaBCIFwBQEBBQgBAQNJAiwBAQMFAgEDEQQBAQolFAEEGgYWCAYTCgECAgEBh3K2OYt1AwIBBwEUBwECAlIBAYM6AyEGDAmDNASCXYU+hTqaSg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.73,438,1325462400"; d="scan'208,217";a="361674982" Received: from host-92-29-137-45.as13285.net (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.29.137.45]) by out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 17 Feb 2012 15:23:16 +0000 Message-ID: <005401cced88$121da690$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <86B96475B114448D9C883B015563C8CA@AGB> <001501cced52$8bcf46a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <004401cced66$77d9a0a0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <001b01cced6a$2ff196e0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:23:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Re: CQ DE WE2XGR/6 Will be on 497Khz dial start agn at 2330-Bob Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0051_01CCED88.11BBD780" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:457553728:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db40a4f3e7144530a X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01CCED88.11BBD780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Graham Ref ur op 16=20 I have noticed over the years that a QRP station regardless of mode = suffers more from QSB than the QRO merchants. There could be an advantage using op16 for long haul with QRO stations = but maybe op8 would do.=20 On 500 es 137 an option for op 2, 4, 8 or 16 would be useful. Selection = would depend on distance and RF power out. The majority of stns active at present appear to be QRP and suffer from = the qsb effect. The outcome/results might well be totally different were = the same stns running higher power over the same distances. g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 11:58 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Re: CQ DE WE2XGR/6 Will be on 497Khz dial = start agn at 2330-Bob=20 Mal, Make sure you are in the right frequency band for the speed , or = no stations will decode you , 501.5 is on the change over = frequency . stay with OP4 as 16 is not giving good decodes at = range.=20 G.. From: mal hamilton=20 Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 11:49 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: CQ DE WE2XGR/6 Will be on 497Khz dial start = agn at 2330-Bob=20 Tnx Jay I could try tonite START 2300 utc 501.5 signal freq. Sigs to the West = are low at present on 137 es from now on will not be as good as over the = peak Xmas period generally speaking de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 11:22 AM Subject: LF: Re: Re: CQ DE WE2XGR/6 Will be on 497Khz dial start agn = at 2330-Bob=20 Mal 501.5 kHz was clear this side last night ... will be glad to park a = receiver on 501.5 to look for your (or any other EU) signals. Note that = Stefan's signal was more than 10 dB down from usual last night although = it looks like we're getting a fairly quick DST index recovery from the = latest event. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 4:00 AM Subject: LF: Re: CQ DE WE2XGR/6 Will be on 497Khz dial start agn = at 2330-Bob=20 Bob, 497 is still in the cluttered area ie 498.5 actual freq. = How about 508 or higher for NA tx. In the UK 501.5 is not the ideal freq = either, bad for the traditional CW operator working around 501.5 - 502.5 = Khz. How about a spot higher up like 504 near the top band edge out of = the way. East coast USA stns let me know when the freq is clear and I will = try some OPERA before the dx season dries up for this year. de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:55 PM Subject: LF: CQ DE WE2XGR/6 Will be on 497Khz dial start agn at = 2330-Bob=20 WE2XGR/6 Will be on 497Khz dial start agn at 2330-Bob=20 G; N6ry had a long list of decodes. Going west the band was good. = N6RY was rxing anywhere from -17 to -21. Also decodes from W0YSE in UTAH = he was having bad QRN condtions but still some solid decodes. Nothing = from VK. Surprisingly nothing across the pond.=20 Hopefully better tonite. I have been asked to move out of the DX = window as it is rite in your small transmit freq window. Some rxing = stations here in NE are trying to decode UK/EURO opera/ros. Wish them = luck but skip as of late has been short with very strong sigs close in. = I overload their RX.=20 I checked PA3WEG RX and 497 dial [498.5 sigs] looks very clean. = I'll fire up there and notify on 600 mrg-lowfer-opera about move. Will be on 497 start agn at 2330-Bob=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01CCED88.11BBD780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Graham
Ref ur op 16
I have noticed over the years that a QRP station = regardless of mode suffers more from QSB than the QRO = merchants.
There could be an advantage using op16 for long = haul with=20 QRO stations but maybe op8 would do.
On 500 es 137 an option for op 2, 4, 8 or = 16 would be=20 useful. Selection would depend on distance and RF power = out.
The majority of stns active at present appear to = be QRP=20 and suffer from the qsb effect. The outcome/results might well be = totally=20 different were the same stns running higher power over the same=20 distances.
g3kev
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 = 11:58=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Re: CQ = DE=20 WE2XGR/6 Will be on 497Khz dial start agn at 2330-Bob

Mal,
 
Make sure you are  in the  right  frequency =20 band  for the  speed , or  no  stations  = will =20 decode  you  ,   501.5 is on the  change = over =20 frequency .  stay  with  OP4   as  = 16  is=20 not  giving  good  decodes  at  range.
 
G..

Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 11:49 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: CQ DE WE2XGR/6 Will be on 497Khz = dial=20 start agn at 2330-Bob

Tnx Jay
I could try tonite START 2300 utc 501.5 signal = freq.=20 Sigs to the West are low at present on 137 es from now on will not be = as good=20 as over the peak Xmas period generally speaking
 
de mal/g3kev
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 jrusgrove@comcast.net =
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Friday, February 17, = 2012 11:22=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: CQ DE = WE2XGR/6=20 Will be on 497Khz dial start agn at 2330-Bob

Mal
 
501.5 kHz was clear this = side last=20 night ... will be glad to park a receiver on 501.5 to look for = your (or=20 any other EU) signals. Note that Stefan's signal was more than = 10 dB=20 down from usual last night although it looks like we're getting=20 a fairly quick DST index recovery from the latest = event.
 
Jay W1VD  WD2XNS =20 WE2XGR/2   
 
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Friday, February 17, = 2012 4:00=20 AM
Subject: LF: Re: CQ DE = WE2XGR/6 Will=20 be on 497Khz dial start agn at 2330-Bob

Bob,      497 is still = in the=20 cluttered area ie 498.5 actual freq. How about 508 or higher = for NA=20 tx. In the UK 501.5 is not the ideal freq either, bad for the = traditional CW operator working around 501.5 - 502.5 Khz. How = about a=20 spot higher up like 504 near the top band edge out of the=20 way.
East coast USA stns let me know when the = freq is=20 clear and I will try some OPERA before the dx season dries up = for=20 this year.
de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Graham
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Thursday, February = 16, 2012=20 10:55 PM
Subject: LF: CQ DE = WE2XGR/6 Will be=20 on 497Khz dial start agn at 2330-Bob

 
 
WE2XGR/6 Will be on 497Khz   = dial    start=20 agn at 2330-Bob
 
 
G;
N6ry had a long list of decodes. Going west the band = was=20 good. N6RY was rxing anywhere from -17 to -21. Also = decodes=20 from W0YSE in UTAH he was having bad QRN condtions but still = some solid=20 decodes. Nothing from VK. Surprisingly nothing across the pond.=20
Hopefully better tonite. I have been asked to move out of = the DX=20 window as it is rite in your small transmit freq window. = Some rxing=20 stations here in NE are trying to decode UK/EURO opera/ros. Wish = them=20 luck but skip as of late has been short with very = strong=20 sigs close in. I overload their RX. 
I checked = PA3WEG RX=20 and 497 dial [498.5 sigs] looks very clean. I'll fire up there = and=20 notify on 600 mrg-lowfer-opera about move.
Will be on = 497 start=20 agn at=20 2330-Bob 
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