Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dd02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 1B8AA38000096; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 19:16:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Rreud-0005Eu-8q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 00:15:59 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Rreuc-0005El-MV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 00:15:58 +0000 Received: from smtpout1.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.29] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Rreua-0007w3-7O for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 00:15:58 +0000 Received: from AGB ([2.26.17.92]) by mwinf5d15 with ME id TcFn1i00c1zB2Q203cFnm3; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 01:15:50 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <4F246297.4020304@charter.net> <50DDDC5E26754BC284D529DCB4A1C2C3@White> <4F258CB5.2090105@charter.net> <4F25DA96.3080607@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <4F25DA96.3080607@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 00:15:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120129-1, 29/01/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: VLF: WOLF?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0037_01CCDEE4.50A370A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:483697024:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d408e4f25e1741aea X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01CCDEE4.50A370A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think the wolf mode is psk based and requires a linear TX , = there are of course mfsk and o/o modes that may may be suitably = adapted for direct use ... G. From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 11:47 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: VLF: WOLF?? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, so what about a WOLF VLF test? Can the program easily be = configured to transmit at 8970 Hz? I.e. does it generate a tone at that = frequency? Please confirm that no linear mode PA is needed. Wolf 10, = means 10 Hz bandwidth? Sorry for the basic questions, i could read the = manual but its like reading readme files ;-) Starting with local tests should show the limits and chances.=20 DD7PC who is in 77 km to my fixed location gave a WOLF report today, so = maybe... And if OK2BVG can reveive my DFCW-3 from the 300m kite, it may be worth = to spend some time for a WOLF. I could ask Michael Oexner first. He is just 45 km distant... 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 29.01.2012 23:40, schrieb Bill de Carle:=20 At 01:15 PM 1/29/2012, John W1TAG/WD2XES wrote: Markus, Then I'll start on that frequency at 22:00 UT, unless CFH returns. = Same as last night, WOLF(10) until 0600 UT. I "sniffed" a little audio from the output of the TS-850 (tuned to = 135600 USB) without stopping my LF grabber, and as expected, easy copy. Nothing so far beats Wolf - and if something ever does, it won't be by = much: Wolf is very close to the theoretical performance limit. Bill VE2IQ 2012-01-29 22:25:33 >WOLF10 -r 8100.174 -f 1693.957 -t 0.2 -w 0.0000 t: 24 f: 0.001 a: 0.4 dp:119.0 ci: 7 cj: 61 WD2XES FN42CH - t: 48 f: 0.001 a: 0.4 dp:118.8 ci: 7 cj: 61 WD2XES FN42CH - t: 96 f: 0.001 a: 0.4 dp:118.1 ci: 7 cj: 61 WD2XES FN42CH - t: 192 f: 0.000 pm: 6216 jm:838 q: 12.7 12.5 WD2XES FN42CH - t: 288 f: 0.000 pm:14667 jm:838 q: 16.4 16.4 WD2XES FN42CH - ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01CCDEE4.50A370A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think the  wolf  mode is  psk  based  = and=20 requires  a  linear TX ,  there  are=20  of  course mfsk  and  o/o modes that  = may  may=20 be  suitably  adapted  for  direct  use = ...
 
G.

From: Stefan = Sch=E4fer
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 11:47 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: VLF: WOLF??

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, so what about a WOLF VLF test? Can the = program=20 easily be configured to transmit at 8970 Hz? I.e. does it generate a = tone at=20 that frequency? Please confirm that no linear mode PA is needed. Wolf = 10, means=20 10 Hz bandwidth? Sorry for the basic questions, i could read the manual = but its=20 like reading readme files ;-)
Starting with local tests should show = the=20 limits and chances.
DD7PC who is in 77 km to my fixed location gave = a WOLF=20 report today, so maybe...
And if OK2BVG can reveive my DFCW-3 from = the 300m=20 kite, it may be worth to spend some time for a WOLF.
I could ask = Michael=20 Oexner first. He is just 45 km distant...

73, = Stefan/DK7FC


Am=20 29.01.2012 23:40, schrieb Bill de Carle:=20
At 01:15=20 PM 1/29/2012, John W1TAG/WD2XES wrote:
Markus,

Then = I'll start on=20 that frequency at 22:00 UT, unless CFH returns. Same as last night, = WOLF(10)=20 until 0600 UT.

I=20 "sniffed" a little audio from the output of the TS-850 (tuned to = 135600 USB)=20 without stopping my LF grabber, and as expected, easy copy.
Nothing = so far=20 beats Wolf - and if something ever does, it won't be by much: Wolf is = very=20 close to the theoretical performance limit.

Bill=20 VE2IQ

2012-01-29 22:25:33 >WOLF10  -r 8100.174 -f = 1693.957 -t=20 0.2 -w 0.0000
t:  24 f: 0.001 a: 0.4 dp:119.0 ci: 7 cj: 61=20 WD2XES  FN42CH  -
t:  48 f: 0.001 a: 0.4 dp:118.8 = ci: 7 cj:=20 61 WD2XES  FN42CH  -
t:  96 f: 0.001 a: 0.4 dp:118.1 = ci: 7=20 cj: 61 WD2XES  FN42CH  -
t: 192 f: 0.000 pm: 6216 jm:838 = q: 12.7=20 12.5 WD2XES  FN42CH  -
t: 288 f: 0.000 pm:14667 jm:838 q: = 16.4=20 16.4 WD2XES  FN42CH  -
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