Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-md06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id F38923800007D; Thu, 5 Jan 2012 16:07:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RiuDQ-0005Hg-4N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 20:47:12 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RiuDP-0005HW-MF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 20:47:11 +0000 Received: from mail-ee0-f43.google.com ([74.125.83.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RiuDN-0007GS-5a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 20:47:11 +0000 Received: by eekd4 with SMTP id d4so887305eek.16 for ; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 12:47:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority :importance:x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=Eb8ZNSCo2ToWdWDZf3x8aqjuC/pTGd5rVi2NQX7i+kU=; b=Wfzpz4R0xtk6ynfgZ3kbbDqBUXqj3RKLqtYkBVlf2OI5AnEiJ7luq8APybyvK7N31z JfLVJiVNZHEfD3e+d9K1FhgKFsDj30F7K0emiEnRV5tsM1gs9t6HQIOOnkogc/24pj4i IwFAnSowRSAweca7zrmndroOMJWHK+l+zS4H0= Received: by 10.213.34.210 with SMTP id m18mr703663ebd.53.1325796423211; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 12:47:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from PcMinto (h50208.upc-h.chello.nl. [62.194.50.208]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e12sm87500425eea.5.2012.01.05.12.47.01 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 05 Jan 2012 12:47:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: From: Minto Witteveen To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 21:47:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3538.513 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3538.513 X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,TVD_SUBJ_ACC_NUM=1.8 Subject: Re: LF: Dual OPERA Beacon 500K OP2+OP15 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:447094048:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m025.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d605a4f0611114c03 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none I am not convinced that this Opera beaconing (experiment??) is a good thing, that is to say not as it is currently conducted on 500. For some reason the frequencies that are used are smack in the middle of the ‘normal’ CW part of 500. Why not go to the (upper) band edge like WSPR? Already I have experienced some annoying interference, after calling CQ on 502 and/or 502.5 I heard more than one Opera sig on 502.0 and 502.2 – right through my CQ. Probably no operator listening or Opera not checking the QRG? Just now I heard PA3CW calling CQ on 502.00. Halfway through his CQ an Opera beacon started ON EXACT THE SAME FREQUENCY. Dick PA3CW did respond (with ..--..) to the CW-like Opera beacon but to no avail.. So please let’s agree on the band edges for these types of beacons. They have their use and are fun to work/play with, but as I understand it they do not need much bandwidth so moving to a confined area the band edge(s) should not be a problem. And select one. I see (hear) an Italian beacon day and night somewhere above 501. Another 500 Hz of the 3 KHz allocated lost for CW. Regards, Minto pa3bca -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ceterum censeo Carthaginem delendam esse From: Graham Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 18:35 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Dual OPERA Beacon 500K OP2+OP15 All Running dual beacon OP 2 and OP15 on 500K usb dial set 5 watts carrier power per mode/carrier to 40 ft top loaded vertical erp ? anyone guess ? Reports welcome 73 -Graham G0NBD