Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mg03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id A74AA380000B9; Fri, 6 Jan 2012 15:38:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RjGYN-0008Et-6j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:38:19 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RjGYM-0008Ej-Kj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:38:18 +0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f171.google.com ([209.85.212.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RjGYK-0000dO-DF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:38:18 +0000 Received: by wico1 with SMTP id o1so2625439wic.16 for ; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 12:38:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=paYXDAFVu9vuHUmMGyyDSrtCxNi21WQ6li1quxLf2Iw=; b=lTnEgmRHZWJQpEDRMNgrNUxI7BM9TJPW2dCrdmNKtChqS2pFzmEougCUIZi/acsYus QBWKomBs2wpeM1eayDSs5NBnyKbkzzCyuntaPhMBiPcXHwBr3Q+1kJ8uQ6aW+1AaOgz+ Sns7EQLvpW7btn5t+8GBf6mln1yKFKHmOOD3c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.88.169 with SMTP id bh9mr9626092wib.20.1325882289991; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 12:38:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.77.107 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Jan 2012 12:38:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <09A1EC98B4A642B39191429716F9579E@AGB> Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 20:38:09 +0000 Message-ID: From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Opera questions Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04182570e8b17c04b5e2064d X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:495464608:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m224.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60cb4f075be10fdf X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --f46d04182570e8b17c04b5e2064d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sorry Graham, another Opera question. Does the mode depend on PC timing in the same way WSPR does? I think not, but just checking. 73s Roger G3XBM On 6 January 2012 20:34, Roger Lapthorn wrote: > Thanks Graham. > > Does the software sort out if it is receiving an Op8 or Op31 transmission? > I.e. if I TX in Op31 do people have to listen in that speed too? I think > not as I copied SM6BHZ when my switch was set to Op31. > > Is it possible to establish the "effective sensitivity" when comparing > Opera against WSPR, QRSS3, 30 etc? I am unsure if the bandwidths of the > modes in which the S/N is shown for Opera is comparable. If more sensitive > than WSPR or QRSS30 even then this is definitely a very exciting new mode > for QRPers like me. It might also be fun for earth mode VLF tests too. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > > On 6 January 2012 20:25, Graham wrote: > >> ** >> Ok Roger >> >> The tx time is linked to the mode name OP2 = 2 mins , OP15 = >> 15 mins OP8 OP31 mins >> >> Who's on ? Yes p possibly , but that would need a web programmer .. >> but its only day 6 ! >> >> you can check the PSK Report map to see who has tx /rx in the >> last 15 mins >> >> A book would be handy as it looks like its going to be popular >> , never seen so many beacons tx/rx on 136 ! >> >> Left hand screen = local decodes >> Righ hand screen = decodes distributed over the web >> >> Not forgetting Mr Ros seems to code exceedingly good codes , as >> the advert says hi >> >> 73 -G.. >> >> *From:* Roger Lapthorn >> *Sent:* Friday, January 06, 2012 8:10 PM >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> *Subject:* LF: Opera questions >> >> Somewhere I must have missed some information: >> >> 1. How long does it take to send a beacon message in Opera8 and >> Opera31? >> 2. Is it possible to have something like the WSPRnet database showing >> stations on each band monitoring and TXing? It helps to know someone is >> looking! >> 3. Can we have a "read me" that explains what is meant to happen on >> the screen? >> >> Tried a brief transmission on 136 into my earth electrodes as my loop >> antenna is down without success (so far) but just had my first decode on RX >> in Opera8: >> >> 20:07 *SM6BHZ* 136 Op8 -19 dB 951 km @ 046 - not bad for 2 ground rods >> and no antenna! >> >> 73s and thanks for this interesting new mode Graham. >> >> Roger G3XBM >> >> >> -- >> http://qss2.blogspot.com/ >> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ >> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk >> https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ >> >> >> > > > -- > http://qss2.blogspot.com/ > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ > > > -- http://qss2.blogspot.com/ http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ --f46d04182570e8b17c04b5e2064d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry Graham, another Opera question. Does the mode depend on PC timing in = the same way WSPR does? I think not, but just checking.

73s
Roger= G3XBM

On 6 January 2012 20:34, Roger Lap= thorn <roge= rlapthorn@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Graham.

Does the software sor= t out if it is receiving an Op8 or Op31 transmission? I.e. if I TX in Op31 = do people have to listen in that speed too? I think not as I copied SM6BHZ = when my switch was set to Op31.

Is it possible to establish the "effective sensitivity" when = comparing Opera against WSPR, QRSS3, 30 etc? I am unsure if the bandwidths = of the modes in which the S/N is shown for Opera is comparable. If more sen= sitive than WSPR or QRSS30 even then this is definitely a very exciting new= mode for QRPers like me. It might also be fun for earth mode VLF tests too= .

73s
Roger G3XBM


On 6 January 2012 20:25, Graham <= ;g8fzk@g8fzk.f= snet.co.uk> wrote:
Ok Roger=A0
=A0
The=A0 tx=A0 time=A0 is=A0 linked to the=A0 mode=A0=20 name=A0=A0 OP2=A0 =3D 2 mins=A0 ,=A0=A0 OP15 =3D=A0 15=20 mins=A0=A0 OP8=A0=A0=A0=A0OP31=A0=A0 mins
=A0
Who's=A0 on ?=A0 Yes p possibly , but that=A0 would=A0=20 need=A0 a=A0 web programmer=A0.. but=A0 its=A0 only=A0=20 day=A0 6 !
=A0
you=A0 can=A0 check the=A0 PSK Report map=A0 to=A0=20 see=A0=A0 who=A0 has=A0 tx /rx in the=A0 last 15=A0 mins=A0=20
=A0
A book=A0 would=A0 be handy=A0 as=A0 it looks=A0 like=A0=20 its=A0 going=A0 to=A0 be=A0 popular , never=A0 seen so=A0=20 many=A0 beacons=A0 tx/rx =A0on 136 !=A0
=A0
Left hand=A0 screen =3D=A0 local=A0 decodes
Righ=A0 hand=A0 screen=A0 =3D=A0 decodes=A0 distributed over=20 the=A0 web
=A0
Not=A0 forgetting Mr Ros =A0seems to=A0 code=A0=20 exceedingly=A0 good=A0 codes , as the=A0 advert=A0 says=A0 hi=20
=A0
73 -G..

Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 8:10 PM
Subject: LF: Opera questions

Somewhere I must have missed some information:
  1. How long does it take to send a beacon message in Opera8 and Opera31?= =20
  2. Is it possible to have something like the WSPRnet database showi= ng=20 stations on each band monitoring and TXing? It helps to know someone is= =20 looking!
  3. Can we have a "read me" that explains what is meant to= happen on the=20 screen?
Tried a brief transmission on 136 into my earth electrod= es as=20 my loop antenna is down without success (so far) but just had my first deco= de on=20 RX in Opera8:

20:07=A0 SM6BHZ 136 Op8 -19 dB 951 km @ 046=A0= =20 - not bad for 2 ground rods and no antenna!

73s and thanks for this= =20 interesting new mode Graham.

Roger G3XBM


--
http://qss2.blogspot.com/
http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/





--
http://qss2.blogspot.com/
http://g3xb= m-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/




--
http://qss2.blogspot.com/
http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/

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