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Williams" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: QRP 1W /PA circuit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d041826c69e578d04b646d4d0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:443538688:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d019.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60ca4f0df73d2363 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --f46d041826c69e578d04b646d4d0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well said, Stefan. BTW...thunderstorms forecast in my area tonight, so you are correct.....chances of my receiving your QRP signal....nill.....because I will have everything disconnected. :-( Doug KB4OER 2012/1/11 Stefan Sch=E4fer > ** > G., LF, > > At least i can reach Gary in DFCW-90. Even pretty well :-) > > You can simply play the game and lower your power as long as you reach th= e > lowest level that opera can decode. Then bring it in a relation to QRSS-X > at M copy. Then you know the answer to your question. > > If you then transmit in QRSS, you know EVERYONE can read the ID while in > OPERA only those who run the program (on a PC with reasonable CPU space a= nd > a software version that is not older then a day) will. > > BTW regarding beacons, in both OPERA and SpecLab (or ARGO...) one can > spend the time in front of the TV and drink a lot of beer if this is > preferred. In case of Opera you take a look to the text table / checking > the database and in QRSS, you use the scroll-wheel of the mouse to go > through the captures. Both takes not even a minute, for those who have ti= me > problems. > BUT if the signal is on the limit or there is QSB or sporadic QRM you wil= l > see parts of the ID in QRSS (e.g. "K7F" or "7FC" or simply "D") while in > OPERA you get a nonsense call or nothing at all (which is about the same > ;-) ). > > Personally i do not like beer, have no TV and prefer QRSS/DFCW and CW. > Sounds "old fashioned", i know ;-) > > *Anyway i wish you good luck and fun with the software progress*. > However, as someone said at the beginning: "You can't beat Shannon", so i > hardly expect it will be the new super-mode but rather a new game. Ah BTW > what about the ROS program? That is quite a while ago i heard from any > super DX in that mode. > > Apart from the discussion i think what we really need is a new basic > interest in simply beeing active on the band and seeing other man made > signals coming out of the noise. I was very pleased to see EW6GB yesterda= y > in QRSS-3 at very O copy (it is totally unimportant whether i worked him > before or not and what the distance is). > > 73, GL, Stefan/DK7FC > > > Am 11.01.2012 19:05, schrieb Graham: > > S . Would be interesting to see how far OP30 would go with 1 = w > Ae feed , would you reach Gary ? > > G. > > > --f46d041826c69e578d04b646d4d0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well said, Stefan.
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BTW...thunderstorms forecas= t in my area tonight, so you are correct.....chances of my receiving your Q= RP signal....nill.....because I will have everything disconnected. :-(
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Doug KB4OER

2012= /1/11 Stefan Sch=E4fer <Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>
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G., LF,

At least i can reach Gary in DFCW-90. Even pretty well :-)

You can simply play the game and lower your power as long as you reach the lowest level that opera can decode. Then bring it in a relation to QRSS-X at M copy. Then you know the answer to your question.

If you then transmit in QRSS, you know EVERYONE can read the ID while in OPERA only those who run the program (on a PC with reasonable CPU space and a software version that is not older then a day) will.

BTW regarding beacons, in both OPERA and SpecLab (or ARGO...) one can spend the time in front of the TV and drink a lot of beer if this is preferred. In case of Opera you take a look to the text table / checking the database and in QRSS, you use the scroll-wheel of the mouse to go through the captures. Both takes not even a minute, for those who have time problems.
BUT if the signal is on the limit or there is QSB or sporadic QRM you will see parts of the ID in QRSS (e.g. "K7F" or "7FC" o= r simply "D") while in OPERA you get a nonsense call or nothing at all (which is about the same ;-) ).

Personally i do not like beer, have no TV and prefer QRSS/DFCW and CW. Sounds "old fashioned", i know ;-)

Anyway i wish you good luck and fun with the software progress. However, as someone said at the beginning: "You can't beat Shannon= ", so i hardly expect it will be the new super-mode but rather a new game. Ah BTW what about the ROS program? That is quite a while ago i heard from any super DX in that mode.

Apart from the discussion i think what we really need is a new basic interest in simply beeing active on the band and seeing other man made signals coming out of the noise. I was very pleased to see EW6GB yesterday in QRSS-3 at very O copy (it is totally unimportant whether i worked him before or not and what the distance is).

73, GL, Stefan/DK7FC



Am 11.01.2012 19:05, schrieb Graham:

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