Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dl04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 21ED6380000A2; Fri, 6 Jan 2012 16:09:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RjH1Z-0000d9-6X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 21:08:29 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RjH1Y-0000d0-Hg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 21:08:28 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s7.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RjH1V-0000zM-UY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 21:08:28 +0000 Received: from BLU163-W25 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s7.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 6 Jan 2012 13:07:19 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [88.104.46.52] From: Gary G4WGT To: Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 21:07:18 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<09A1EC98B4A642B39191429716F9579E@AGB>,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jan 2012 21:07:19.0183 (UTC) FILETIME=[2CEEC9F0:01CCCCB7] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_899ecfa8-1a0a-4c95-bbed-55032352b22c_" Subject: RE: LF: Opera questions X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:489974624:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d4ad24f0763010f90 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --_899ecfa8-1a0a-4c95-bbed-55032352b22c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Roger=2C No PC timing involved. Click Tx to start when you wish. 73=2C G= ary - G4WGT. Date: Fri=2C 6 Jan 2012 20:38:09 +0000 From: rogerlapthorn@gmail.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Opera questions Sorry Graham=2C another Opera question. Does the mode depend on PC timing i= n the same way WSPR does? I think not=2C but just checking. 73s Roger G3XBM On 6 January 2012 20:34=2C Roger Lapthorn wrote: Thanks Graham.=20 Does the software sort out if it is receiving an Op8 or Op31 transmission? = I.e. if I TX in Op31 do people have to listen in that speed too? I think no= t as I copied SM6BHZ when my switch was set to Op31. Is it possible to establish the "effective sensitivity" when comparing Oper= a against WSPR=2C QRSS3=2C 30 etc? I am unsure if the bandwidths of the mod= es in which the S/N is shown for Opera is comparable. If more sensitive tha= n WSPR or QRSS30 even then this is definitely a very exciting new mode for = QRPers like me. It might also be fun for earth mode VLF tests too.. 73s Roger G3XBM On 6 January 2012 20:25=2C Graham wrote: Ok Roger =20 =20 The tx time is linked to the mode =20 name OP2 =3D 2 mins =2C OP15 =3D 15=20 mins OP8 OP31 mins=20 =20 Who's on ? Yes p possibly =2C but that would =20 need a web programmer .. but its only =20 day 6 ! =20 you can check the PSK Report map to =20 see who has tx /rx in the last 15 mins =20 =20 A book would be handy as it looks like =20 its going to be popular =2C never seen so =20 many beacons tx/rx on 136 !=20 =20 Left hand screen =3D local decodes=20 Righ hand screen =3D decodes distributed over=20 the web=20 =20 Not forgetting Mr Ros seems to code =20 exceedingly good codes =2C as the advert says hi=20 =20 73 -G..=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 Sent: Friday=2C January 06=2C 2012 8:10 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Opera questions Somewhere I must have missed some information: How long does it take to send a beacon message in Opera8 and Opera31?=20 Is it possible to have something like the WSPRnet database showing=20 stations on each band monitoring and TXing? It helps to know someone is=20 looking! Can we have a "read me" that explains what is meant to happen on the=20 screen?Tried a brief transmission on 136 into my earth electrodes as=20 my loop antenna is down without success (so far) but just had my first deco= de on=20 RX in Opera8: 20:07 SM6BHZ 136 Op8 -19 dB 951 km @ 046 =20 - not bad for 2 ground rods and no antenna! 73s and thanks for this=20 interesting new mode Graham. Roger G3XBM --=20 http://qss2.blogspot.com/ http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ --=20 http://qss2.blogspot.com/ http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ --=20 http://qss2.blogspot.com/ http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ = --_899ecfa8-1a0a-4c95-bbed-55032352b22c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Roger=2C
 =3B
No PC timing involved. Click Tx to start when yo= u wish.
 =3B
73=2C Gary - G4WGT.
 =3B
Date: Fri=2C 6 Jan 2012 2= 0:38:09 +0000
From: rogerlapthorn@gmail.com
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksh= eep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Opera questions

Sorry Graham=2C another = Opera question. Does the mode depend on PC timing in the same way WSPR does= ? I think not=2C but just checking.

73s
Roger G3XBM

On 6 January 2012 20:34=2C Roger Lapthorn <=3Brogerlapthorn@gma= il.com>=3B wrote:
Thanks Graham.

Does the software sort out if it is= receiving an Op8 or Op31 transmission? I.e. if I TX in Op31 do people have= to listen in that speed too? I think not as I copied SM6BHZ when my switch= was set to Op31.

Is it possible to establish the "effective sensitivity" when comparing = Opera against WSPR=2C QRSS3=2C 30 etc? I am unsure if the bandwidths of the= modes in which the S/N is shown for Opera is comparable. If more sensitive= than WSPR or QRSS30 even then this is definitely a very exciting new mode = for QRPers like me. It might also be fun for earth mode VLF tests too..

73s
Roger G3XBM


On 6 January 2012 20:25=2C Graham <=3Bg8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.= uk>=3B wrote:
Ok Roger =3B
 =3B
The =3B tx =3B time =3B is =3B linked to the =3B m= ode =3B=20 name =3B =3B OP2 =3B =3D 2 mins =3B =2C =3B =3B OP1= 5 =3D =3B 15=20 mins =3B =3B OP8 =3B =3B =3B =3BOP31 =3B = =3B mins
 =3B
Who's =3B on ? =3B Yes p possibly =2C but that =3B would&n= bsp=3B=20 need =3B a =3B web programmer =3B.. but =3B its =3B onl= y =3B=20 day =3B 6 !
 =3B
you =3B can =3B check the =3B PSK Report map =3B to&nb= sp=3B=20 see =3B =3B who =3B has =3B tx /rx in the =3B last 15&n= bsp=3B mins =3B=20
 =3B
A book =3B would =3B be handy =3B as =3B it looks = =3B like =3B=20 its =3B going =3B to =3B be =3B popular =2C never =3B s= een so =3B=20 many =3B beacons =3B tx/rx  =3Bon 136 ! =3B
 =3B
Left hand =3B screen =3D =3B local =3B decodes
Righ =3B hand =3B screen =3B =3D =3B decodes =3B d= istributed over=20 the =3B web
 =3B
Not =3B forgetting Mr Ros  =3Bseems to =3B code =3B=20 exceedingly =3B good =3B codes =2C as the =3B advert =3B sa= ys =3B hi=20
 =3B
73 -G..

Sent: Friday=2C January 06=2C 2012 8:10 PM
Subject: LF: Opera questions

Somewhere I must have missed some information:
  1. How long does it take to send a beacon message in Opera8 and Opera31?= =20
  2. Is it possible to have something like the WSPRnet database showi= ng=20 stations on each band monitoring and TXing? It helps to know someone is=20 looking!
  3. Can we have a "read me" that explains what is meant to happen on= the=20 screen?
Tried a brief transmission on 136 into my earth electrod= es as=20 my loop antenna is down without success (so far) but just had my first deco= de on=20 RX in Opera8:

20:07 =3B SM6BHZ 136 Op8 -19 dB 951 km @ 04= 6 =3B=20 - not bad for 2 ground rods and no antenna!

73s and thanks for this= =20 interesting new mode Graham.

Roger G3XBM


--
http://qss2.blogspot.com/
http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm= .co.uk
https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/





--
http://qss2.blogspot.com/
http://g3xb= m-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/




--
http://qss2.blogspot.com/
http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/

= --_899ecfa8-1a0a-4c95-bbed-55032352b22c_--