Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mp03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id AE691380000BE; Thu, 5 Jan 2012 16:48:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Riuhv-0005bm-6n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 21:18:43 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Riuhu-0005bd-M5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 21:18:42 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s21.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Riuht-0007YH-1r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 21:18:42 +0000 Received: from BLU163-W23 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s21.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 5 Jan 2012 13:18:34 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [88.104.46.52] From: Gary G4WGT To: Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 21:18:34 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2012 21:18:34.0704 (UTC) FILETIME=[95295D00:01CCCBEF] X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,TVD_SUBJ_ACC_NUM=1.8 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_da395ce7-f37c-4ee2-9bd4-af6879e4dca7_" Subject: RE: LF: Dual OPERA Beacon 500K OP2+OP15 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:476444768:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1dc1474f061a9057a6 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --_da395ce7-f37c-4ee2-9bd4-af6879e4dca7_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Minto=2C =20 Sorry that you seem to be experiencing a problem from the Opera beacons. =20 There should be no QRM from Opera as the Tx sub-band is 501.300 to 501.700k= Hz & would not interfere with your CW QSO's on 502.000 & 502.500kHz. =20 Also the Opera software will not Tx on an occupied freqency due to it's agi= le frequency feature=2C it will automatically QSY to a clear frequency with= in it's sub-band before Txing. =20 I am monitoring the frequency & I have not seen any Opera signal outside th= e limits which I have mentioned above in this email. =20 73=2C Gary - G4WGT. > From: minto.witteveen@gmail.com > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Thu=2C 5 Jan 2012 21:47:02 +0100 > Subject: Re: LF: Dual OPERA Beacon 500K OP2+OP15 >=20 > I am not convinced that this Opera beaconing (experiment??) is a good thi= ng=2C=20 > that is to say not as it is currently conducted on 500. > For some reason the frequencies that are used are smack in the middle of = the=20 > =91normal=92 CW part of 500. Why not go to the (upper) band edge like WS= PR?=20 > Already I have experienced some annoying interference=2C after calling CQ= on=20 > 502 and/or 502.5 I heard more than one Opera sig on 502.0 and 502.2 =96 r= ight=20 > through my CQ. Probably no operator listening or Opera not checking the Q= RG? > Just now I heard PA3CW calling CQ on 502.00. Halfway through his CQ an Op= era=20 > beacon started ON EXACT THE SAME FREQUENCY. Dick PA3CW did respond (with= =20 > ...--..) to the CW-like Opera beacon but to no avail.. >=20 > So please let=92s agree on the band edges for these types of beacons. The= y=20 > have their use and are fun to work/play with=2C but as I understand it th= ey do=20 > not need much bandwidth so moving to a confined area the band edge(s) sho= uld=20 > not be a problem. > And select one. I see (hear) an Italian beacon day and night somewhere ab= ove=20 > 501. Another 500 Hz of the 3 KHz allocated lost for CW. >=20 > Regards=2C Minto pa3bca >=20 >=20 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - > Ceterum censeo Carthaginem delendam esse >=20 > From: Graham > Sent: Thursday=2C January 05=2C 2012 18:35 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Dual OPERA Beacon 500K OP2+OP15 >=20 > All >=20 > Running dual beacon OP 2 and OP15 >=20 > on 500K usb dial set >=20 > 5 watts carrier power per mode/carrier to 40 ft top loaded vertical > erp ? anyone guess ? >=20 > Reports welcome >=20 > 73 -Graham > G0NBD >=20 >=20 >=20 = --_da395ce7-f37c-4ee2-9bd4-af6879e4dca7_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Minto=2C

Sorry that you seem to be experiencing a problem from t= he Opera beacons.

There should be no QRM from Opera as the Tx sub-b= and is 501.300 to 501.700kHz &=3B would not interfere with your CW QSO's= on 502.000 &=3B 502.500kHz.

Also the Opera software will not Tx= on an occupied freqency due to it's agile frequency feature=2C it will aut= omatically QSY to a clear frequency within it's sub-band before Txing.
=
I am monitoring the frequency &=3B I have not seen any Opera signal = outside the limits which I have mentioned above in this email.

73= =2C Gary - G4WGT.

 =3B
<= /div>>=3B From: minto.witteveen@gmail.com
>=3B To: rsgb_lf_group@bla= cksheep.org
>=3B Date: Thu=2C 5 Jan 2012 21:47:02 +0100
>=3B Subj= ect: Re: LF: Dual OPERA Beacon 500K OP2+OP15
>=3B
>=3B I am = not convinced that this Opera beaconing (experiment??) is a good thing=2C <= br>>=3B that is to say not as it is currently conducted on 500.
>=3B= For some reason the frequencies that are used are smack in the middle of t= he
>=3B =91normal=92 CW part of 500. Why not go to the (upper) band = edge like WSPR?
>=3B Already I have experienced some annoying interfe= rence=2C after calling CQ on
>=3B 502 and/or 502.5 I heard more than = one Opera sig on 502.0 and 502.2 =96 right
>=3B through my CQ. Probab= ly no operator listening or Opera not checking the QRG?
>=3B Just now = I heard PA3CW calling CQ on 502.00. Halfway through his CQ an Opera
>= =3B beacon started ON EXACT THE SAME FREQUENCY. Dick PA3CW did respond (wi= th
>=3B ...--..) to the CW-like Opera beacon but to no avail..
>= =3B
>=3B So please let=92s agree on the band edges for these types of= beacons. They
>=3B have their use and are fun to work/play with=2C b= ut as I understand it they do
>=3B not need much bandwidth so moving = to a confined area the band edge(s) should
>=3B not be a problem.
= >=3B And select one. I see (hear) an Italian beacon day and night somewhe= re above
>=3B 501. Another 500 Hz of the 3 KHz allocated lost for CW.=
>=3B
>=3B Regards=2C Minto pa3bca
>=3B
>=3B
>= =3B -----------------------------------------------------------------------= ---
>=3B Ceterum censeo Carthaginem delendam esse
>=3B
>=3B= From: Graham
>=3B Sent: Thursday=2C January 05=2C 2012 18:35
>= =3B To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>=3B Subject: LF: Dual OPERA Beac= on 500K OP2+OP15
>=3B
>=3B All
>=3B
>=3B Running dua= l beacon OP 2 and OP15
>=3B
>=3B on 500K usb dial set
= >=3B
>=3B 5 watts carrier power per mode/carrier to 40 ft top = loaded vertical
>=3B erp ? anyone guess ?
>=3B
>=3B Re= ports welcome
>=3B
>=3B 73 -Graham
>=3B G0NBD
>=3B >=3B
>=3B
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