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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:437818176:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m020.1 ; domain : yahoo.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d404b4f1096f05d4a X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none At 09:44 a.m. 12/01/2012, you wrote: >I use a decade inductance bridge to series tune my (approximately) >50m end-fed inverted U wire for 137kHz. > >It uses 3mH - 2mH is too little, 4mH is too much. Obviously I need >to be able to vary this inductance rather more finely and I thought >of using a small variac (don't laugh!) as a variable inductance, >connecting one end, and the tap, in series with the wire. > >Anyone know what the "inductance per turn", or total inductance, of >such an animal might be? > >Any idea if it would work? > >Yes, I know I should wind a coil & tap it, but I like to be different! > >Martin GW3UCJ Swansea, South Wales. Hello Martin /LF, Here is one effortless method that I have used for years to tune a random wire for LF reception: First, find an old AM car radio that tunes with three ganged movable ferrite slugs and extract the tuning unit. The three coils are all shielded from each other and can be series connected in any order and polarity to maximise the total inductance. One unit tested here allows continuous variation from 0.3mH to 2.8mH. On occasion, I have connected a fixed inductor in series to increase the maximum possible inductance. I guess the major problem is to find a suitable old car radio - not variable capacitor tuned. Kevin ZL4MD