Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dh01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id E875238000081; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:18:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RsM0j-0004Rm-6q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:17:09 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RsM0i-0004Rd-QP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:17:08 +0000 Received: from out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.240]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RsM0g-00041D-DC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:17:08 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvgCAMJnKE8CZMLL/2dsb2JhbAAMNqw/gSuDdAEBAQEDOEARCwkPCRYPCQMCAQIBRRMIAQHAfIkggWALBgEEAgECAgkEAQ0EBgEIDQ4kgnIZBAMMAxQFXEyDHASNW5oZ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,598,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="359719726" Received: from host-2-100-194-203.as13285.net (HELO [192.168.2.5]) ([2.100.194.203]) by out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net with ESMTP; 31 Jan 2012 22:17:00 +0000 Message-ID: <4F28685A.6010209@talktalk.net> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:16:58 +0000 From: qrss User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <006201cce044$06c16f80$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <3A9A60CAE4EB4355A5B0A30CDA0F450A@JimPC> In-Reply-To: <3A9A60CAE4EB4355A5B0A30CDA0F450A@JimPC> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Opera v qrs evaluation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:468226784:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d41154f2868c077e9 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Jim It's still on, I see lots of de-codes from you, it will be interesting to hear your findings. I like QRS Morse, I have used it extensively, just look at the e-mail I post to the group with, since WSPR and now OPERA it has become clear that it does not serve me well, on HF I put it down to the tiny network of RX stations who look/listen when they have the time or the inclination not necessarily when the propagation is there. On LF with the high proportion of QRS advocates you would not expect the same situation. 73 Eddie On 31/01/2012 18:35, James Moritz wrote: > Dear Eddie, LF Group, > > In an attempt to actually make a comparison, I have set my RX to the > 500kHz WSPR frequency, with Spec Lab going also. Since it has been > running, G3ZJO's QRSS3 has been about 10 - 15dB SNR in 0.3Hz FFT > resolution, so say about 6dB above the level needed for "good copy". > Opera has so far reported SNR between -23 and -27dB - I don't know how > this relates to the detection threshold for the Op4 mode. I'll leave > it going for a while... > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > >