Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 69A213800008C; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:03:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Rqc54-0001HT-Mv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:02:26 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Rqc54-0001HK-02 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:02:26 +0000 Received: from mta11.charter.net ([216.33.127.80]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Rqc51-0006HC-7X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:02:25 +0000 Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120127030216.BQSO4059.mta11.charter.net@imp10> for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:02:16 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.10] ([66.168.113.95]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id ST2G1i00723ZM9N05T2GCF; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:02:16 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=JYQIUidRAECiNa+jsiaNMIhYElg3H2WoMKCJIGO75f4= c=1 sm=1 a=FFsdPcU1_MIA:10 a=NqbTkxfR1tEA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=FjY2qd//A8RiYNphvvKDfg==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=QejfARXMAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=J3Q6Mc0ugFHaBkwnNa8A:9 a=p12FODJRTD21wXkzTN4A:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=FjY2qd//A8RiYNphvvKDfg==:117 Message-ID: <4F2213B0.2030107@charter.net> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:02:08 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3992CC59F7A14AA694628529761EC5DE@AGB> <4F1F695F.7020400@charter.net> <28E5D61E1299414C8AD335047F7EE837@White> In-Reply-To: <28E5D61E1299414C8AD335047F7EE837@White> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: WOLF: 135975 Hz, 10 b/s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:455152032:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d600b4f22140e4d69 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Markus, Nothing seen as of 0300, other than the usual infinite number of monkeys typing away. Will let it run overnight. John, W1TAG On 1/26/2012 5:39 PM, Markus Vester wrote: > WOLF ... good idea! > My TX antenna has been pushed up again tonight, and I intend to howl for > a couple of hours, starting 23:00 UT at 10 b/s speed. > As CFH is still sitting smack in the middle of the band, I'll move close > to the lower edge, squeezing into a narrow HGA-sidebands gap on *135975 > Hz* (that is unless you may have other suggestions). > Best 73, > Markus (DF6NM) > > *From:* John Andrews > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2012 3:30 AM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: WOLF DATA MODE S/N FIG ? > > Graham, > > There is no single s/n figure or specified BW in which to measure it. > WOLF works by building copy up over a period of time, and assuming good > frequency/phase stability, a half hour or more is practical. > > The data rate is fairly fast, 10 b/s, with a 960 bit message, so that a > complete frame of data is sent in 96 seconds. You get three quick > reports in the first 96 seconds, and then decodes every 96 seconds > after. Each message is 15 characters, with no rules about callsign format. > > Tests done some years ago show it roughly equivalent to QRSS60 in terms > of signal level. It does give some clues as to whether a signal has been > locked-in, and has the possibility of partial copy, unlike some "all or > nothing" modes. Fifteen characters in a half-hour is of course much > faster than QRSS60 would permit. 2-way QSO's are fairly easy with some > advance agreement on what to do with the 15 characters. > > The downsides are the need for a linear transmitter system (as this is > PSK), receiver/transmitter stability and frequency accuracy. It works at > 600 meters, but is fairly useless at 160 meters and up. > > The newest version is by DL4YHF, and may be found at: > http://www.qsl.net/d/dl4yhf//wolf/ . > > Note that this version has 5 b/s and 20 b/s variations. Testing has > shown that the program tends to provide copy in the same amount of time, > so there's no overriding advantage to either. > > John, W1TAG > > On 1/24/2012 7:27 PM, Graham wrote: > > WOLF DATA MODE S/N FIG ? > > Long time since I used wolf , anyone have the > > expected decode min s/n level ? > > and now what s/n was ref to , as changes > > may of taken place over time > > Tnx -G. > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.454 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4162 - Release Date: > 01/23/12 19:34:00 > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.454 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4166 - Release Date: 01/25/12 20:07:00 >