Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dd03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 2C5C6380000B2; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 16:32:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Rl5lm-0004pt-2j for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 21:31:42 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Rl5ll-0004pk-MF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 21:31:41 +0000 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.100.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Rl5lk-0004CY-8I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 21:31:41 +0000 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q0BLVdM8020106 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 22:31:39 +0100 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id q0BLVdwv027325 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2012 22:31:39 +0100 Message-ID: <4F0DFFB1.8040509@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 22:31:29 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <593F4C0651144C339855AFC49ED4329E@computereebf79> In-Reply-To: <593F4C0651144C339855AFC49ED4329E@computereebf79> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: Tuning inductance for 137kHz receive. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:361609536:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d408f4f0dffe35127 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Martin, Am 11.01.2012 21:44, schrieb Martin Evans: > I use a decade inductance bridge to series tune my (approximately) > 50m end-fed inverted U wire for 137kHz. > > It uses 3mH - 2mH is too little, 4mH is too much. Obviously I need to > be able to vary this inductance rather more finely and I thought of > using a small variac (don't laugh!) as a variable inductance, > connecting one end, and the tap, in series with the wire. > > Anyone know what the "inductance per turn", or total inductance, of > such an animal might be? The L will be much to high and the Q will be very low (=lossy). Also it has a high parsitic C and will have a self resonance below 137 kHz. So it rather acts like a capacitor. BTW capacitor, this is what i suggest. Simply use the 2 mH and a small variable capacitor connected to the wire and GND. Then you can accurately adjust to LF. Unfortunately i can't generate a reasonable test signal for you tonite but there are a lot of UK transmitting stations :-) > Any idea if it would work? Yes, NO. 73, GL, Stefan/DK7FC