Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-de04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 0555D380000E0; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 05:16:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RkCGp-0006MV-Rn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 10:16:03 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RkCGp-0006MM-Bw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 10:16:03 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.22]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RkCGn-0003XS-Oh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 10:16:03 +0000 Received: from [10.0.0.164] (a80-101-33-132.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.101.33.132] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q09AFtG6053336 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 11:16:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from westberg@xs4all.nl) Message-ID: <4F0ABE5D.5010808@xs4all.nl> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 11:15:57 +0100 From: Albert User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1531448554.4865005.1326102381148.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb046> In-Reply-To: <1531448554.4865005.1326102381148.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb046> X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl id q09AFtG6053336 X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: OPERA 500 and 136 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:386838624:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40cc4f0abe9868bf X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Op 9-1-2012 10:46, "Horst St=C3=B6cker" schreef: > Hello Albert, > before I will start tests on other bands myself It would be interesting= what's the problem in your opinion. > I do not see a problem - but possibly i am wrong. > Because of the german allocation for DI / experimenta=C3=B6 beacons I j= ust can transmit outside the "OPERA frequencies" even on 500 khz. > vy73 > Horst DO1KHS/DI2AN > > > -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Albert > Gesendet: 08.01.2012 20:06:53 > An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Betreff: LF: OPERA 500 and 136 > >> All, >> >> I am not amused by the internet Opera reports named 500(kHz) or 136(kH= z) >> and generated on a different frequency band eg 10 MHz. >> >> 73, Albert PA0A >> > > ___________________________________________________________ > SMS schreiben mit WEB.DE FreeMail - einfach, schnell und > kostenguenstig. Jetzt gleich testen! http://f.web.de/?mc=3D021192 > > > Hello Horst, I know of your problem in Germany with the frequency allocation. My=20 comment was not directly meant for your beacon. But at the moment we are=20 in the Beta testing fase of Opera and we need and as much listeners as=20 possible to see where the system goes wrong. (multi tx users at the same=20 time and fals decodes) My real problem is, that the system was set up=20 for 500 and 136 kHz and now they start using it on 160 m, 30 m etc if=20 this spreads out than the right hand screen will be full of reports=20 every few minutes from all over world and you never will find back any=20 500 or 136 report. A solution could be an RX screen for each separate=20 band. But at the moment there is only one. I have tried to decode your beacon with no luck DI2AM 500.180 is=20 probably too strong here up in the north. 73, Albert