Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dh01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id B637738000087; Sun, 1 Jan 2012 08:31:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RhLUf-0001RV-Sc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 13:30:33 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RhLUf-0001RM-Es for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 13:30:33 +0000 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RhLUe-0008O4-Ct for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 13:30:33 +0000 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q01DUVYi013015 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2012 14:30:31 +0100 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id q01DUV3S025282 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2012 14:30:31 +0100 Message-ID: <4F005FF6.7020206@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 14:30:30 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <01a801ccc878$ef553030$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: LF: LF ferrite RX antennas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:413147488:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d41154f00602f26dd X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hello Doug, LF ferrite RX antennas were built and discussed here a few months ago. They perform excellent but there is no advantage against a larger loop. For me the real only advantage is the handy dimensions so it can find its place in a backpack. I took a few russian ferrite rods from ebay. If you want, take a look to some photos i took during constructing my antenna: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/DSC04160.JPG http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/ferrite%20antenna%20parts.JPG http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/inside.JPG http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/Q.jpg http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/arrangement.JPG http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/LF-P%20RX%20RIG.JPG http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/DK7FC_LF_p_active_ferrite_antenna.JPG http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/DK7FC-p%20LF%20RX.jpg http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/DK7FC%20LF-p%20RX%20converter.jpg 73, Stefan/DK7FC PS: There is a design of M0BMU as well! Am 01.01.2012 14:03, schrieb Douglas D. Williams: > Mal, > > I am currently using an active e-probe antenna that was made by Jack > Smith at Clifton Laboratories. I asked him to custom modify this one > to be more sensitive than his standard version below 10 kHz, because I > plan to use it to try to receive a TA signal on your "dreamer's band". > He was able to make it quite sensitive down to 3 kHz at the expense of > using some parts with a lower voltage rating, so I have to be careful > not to short out the coax, etc. It is located about 15 meters from my > house and the base of the antenna is a mere 3 meters above ground, and > about 10 meters from the treeline. > > http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j231/Goranothos/antenna.jpg > > My receiver is an Icom R75 (with CW filters), preceded by an LF > Converter of AMRAD design with a TXCO for frequency stability, > preceded by a 500 kHz low pass filter. > > I also have a Wellbrook LFL1010, which is not currently in service, > but since this season is starting off so well, I may put it back up > for comparison with the e-probe. > > Over the years, I have used several different antennas for LF > reception, including tuned longwires, homebrew e-probes that I > constructed, homebrew loops, but I must say I am very impressed with > the Clifton Labs product, as well as the LFL1010, which I used last > season. Someday I would like to construct a large ferrite core > receiving antenna. > > 73, > Doug KB4OER > > > > > > > > > On 1/1/12, mal hamilton wrote: > >> Doug >> Nice screen shot from you. You are receiving extremely well. What sort of >> antenna do you use. >> You might also hear/see me on 500 Khz running 10W erp >> >> 73 es tnx >> de mal/g3kev >>