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[213.106.115.109]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v28sm15152917wbo.18.2012.01.03.13.51.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 03 Jan 2012 13:51:25 -0800 (PST) References: <50CB5299-C570-4ECC-9419-0D01FC708876@numeo.fr> From: Roger Lapthorn X-Mailer: iPod Mail (9A405) In-Reply-To: <50CB5299-C570-4ECC-9419-0D01FC708876@numeo.fr> Message-Id: <384312BC-AEB6-4F18-BA5C-683F1DF80B5C@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 21:51:22 +0000 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Improving Earth Resistance Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:495731552:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m002.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d605a4f0378af1fc6 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none You might want to consider a large vertical loop antenna? Then the earth res= istance is far less important.=20 73s Roger G3XBM -- Via my iPod Touch 4g -- On 3 Jan 2012, at 20:51, John Rabson wrote: > LF, Robin, Chris, >=20 > I am trying to reduce the resistance of the earth connection I use with my= LF antenna. =20 >=20 > The antenna consists of two wires each 16 m long, connected in parallel an= d with a height of about 6 m (it was 8 m but the structure has suffered rece= ntly in the severe gales). >=20 > The earth system consists of three wires radiating from the shack with ang= ular spacings of about 60=C2=B0. They run underground through plastic condui= t for a distance of about 10 m and the remote ends are terminated in metal r= ods of the type used here to provide safety earth connections for mains inst= allations. The three wires are connected together at the transmitter to pro= vide the earth. >=20 > The local geology is a mixture of granite and limestone with intrusions of= calcite. >=20 > At present the resistance at 137 kHz at the feed point is about 150 ohms (= plus of course some reactance which it is not difficult to cancel). At a fr= equency of 980 Hz, I get a resistance of about 25 ohms, depending on whether= there has been recent recent rain. >=20 > Reasoning that the much higher resistance at 137 kHz might result from the= return current flowing through the ground rather than through the earth spi= kes, I tried strapping the remote ends of the earth wires. The additional w= ire ran almost below and effectively parallel to the antenna wires. >=20 > This strapping made practically no difference to the 137 kHz resistance, s= o I had further thoughts: >=20 > 1) laying down an earth mat or something like chicken netting, or the kind= of metal mesh which is used for fencing. Unfortunately, such things are ex= pensive here (I estimate the cost would run into three figures in Euros), or= >=20 > 2) making the mat out of hookup wire or something similar. I have plenty o= f such wire. Would I need to join the wires at each crossing, and what spaci= ng should I use? >=20 > Any suggestions, please? >=20 > John F5VLF >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20