Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mg01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id DDCCD380000BC; Fri, 6 Jan 2012 15:50:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RjGj5-0000Do-1r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:49:23 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RjGj4-0000Df-FA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:49:22 +0000 Received: from smtpout1.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.29] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RjGj1-0000q6-T9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:49:22 +0000 Received: from AGB ([2.26.30.121]) by mwinf5d03 with ME id JLpD1i00K2cnUrE03LpEnk; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 21:49:14 +0100 Message-ID: <0AEB27EC926949C9B32EE63FA61DB68A@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <09A1EC98B4A642B39191429716F9579E@AGB> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 20:49:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120106-0, 06/01/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: Opera questions Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_03E3_01CCCCB4.A60C5F30" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:493337792:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60c94f075e962675 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_03E3_01CCCCB4.A60C5F30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's ok Roger ..=20 Rx speed is automatic ..... the speed select is for Tx only = - mode select via frequency band=20 No PC time lock required ...its free running=20 OP31 expected round -38 dB s/n (ave) OP8 ~ -32 dB =20 G..=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 8:38 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Opera questions Sorry Graham, another Opera question. Does the mode depend on PC timing = in the same way WSPR does? I think not, but just checking. 73s Roger G3XBM On 6 January 2012 20:34, Roger Lapthorn wrote: Thanks Graham.=20 Does the software sort out if it is receiving an Op8 or Op31 = transmission? I.e. if I TX in Op31 do people have to listen in that = speed too? I think not as I copied SM6BHZ when my switch was set to = Op31. Is it possible to establish the "effective sensitivity" when comparing = Opera against WSPR, QRSS3, 30 etc? I am unsure if the bandwidths of the = modes in which the S/N is shown for Opera is comparable. If more = sensitive than WSPR or QRSS30 even then this is definitely a very = exciting new mode for QRPers like me. It might also be fun for earth = mode VLF tests too. 73s Roger G3XBM=20 On 6 January 2012 20:25, Graham wrote: Ok Roger =20 The tx time is linked to the mode name OP2 =3D 2 mins , = OP15 =3D 15 mins OP8 OP31 mins=20 Who's on ? Yes p possibly , but that would need a web = programmer .. but its only day 6 ! you can check the PSK Report map to see who has tx /rx in = the last 15 mins =20 A book would be handy as it looks like its going to be = popular , never seen so many beacons tx/rx on 136 !=20 Left hand screen =3D local decodes=20 Righ hand screen =3D decodes distributed over the web=20 Not forgetting Mr Ros seems to code exceedingly good codes , = as the advert says hi=20 73 -G..=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 8:10 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Opera questions Somewhere I must have missed some information: 1.. How long does it take to send a beacon message in Opera8 and = Opera31?=20 2.. Is it possible to have something like the WSPRnet database = showing stations on each band monitoring and TXing? It helps to know = someone is looking! 3.. Can we have a "read me" that explains what is meant to happen = on the screen? Tried a brief transmission on 136 into my earth electrodes as my = loop antenna is down without success (so far) but just had my first = decode on RX in Opera8: 20:07 SM6BHZ 136 Op8 -19 dB 951 km @ 046 - not bad for 2 ground = rods and no antenna! 73s and thanks for this interesting new mode Graham. Roger G3XBM --=20 http://qss2.blogspot.com/ http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ --=20 http://qss2.blogspot.com/ http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ --=20 http://qss2.blogspot.com/ http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ ------=_NextPart_000_03E3_01CCCCB4.A60C5F30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That's  ok Roger ..
 
Rx   speed  is  automatic  = .....  =20 the  speed  select  is  for  Tx only  - = mode =20 select  via  frequency  band
No   PC time  lock  required  ...its = free =20 running
OP31 expected  round  -38 dB  s/n =20 (ave)     OP8   ~  -32 dB  =
 
G..
 
 

From: Roger Lapthorn
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 8:38 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: LF: Opera questions

Sorry Graham, another Opera question. Does the mode = depend on PC=20 timing in the same way WSPR does? I think not, but just=20 checking.

73s
Roger G3XBM

On 6 January 2012 20:34, Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>=20 wrote:
Thanks Graham.

Does the software sort out if = it is=20 receiving an Op8 or Op31 transmission? I.e. if I TX in Op31 do people = have to=20 listen in that speed too? I think not as I copied SM6BHZ when my = switch was=20 set to Op31.

Is it possible to establish the "effective = sensitivity"=20 when comparing Opera against WSPR, QRSS3, 30 etc? I am unsure if the=20 bandwidths of the modes in which the S/N is shown for Opera is = comparable. If=20 more sensitive than WSPR or QRSS30 even then this is definitely a very = exciting new mode for QRPers like me. It might also be fun for earth = mode VLF=20 tests too.

73s
Roger G3XBM=20


On 6 January 2012 20:25, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
Ok Roger 
 
The  tx  time  is  linked to the  = mode =20 name   OP2  =3D 2 mins  ,   OP15 = =3D  15=20 mins   OP8    OP31   mins =
 
Who's  on ?  Yes p possibly , but that  = would =20 need  a  web programmer .. but  its  = only =20 day  6 !
 
you  can  check the  PSK Report map  = to =20 see   who  has  tx /rx in the  last = 15 =20 mins 
 
A book  would  be handy  as  it looks  = like  its  going  to  be  popular , = never =20 seen so  many  beacons  tx/rx  on 136 = ! 
 
Left hand  screen =3D  local  decodes
Righ  hand  screen  =3D  decodes  = distributed=20 over the  web
 
Not  forgetting Mr Ros  seems to  code =20 exceedingly  good  codes , as the  advert  = says  hi=20
 
73 -G..

Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 8:10 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: Opera questions

Somewhere I must have missed some information:
  1. How long does it take to send a beacon message in Opera8 and = Opera31?=20
  2. Is it possible to have something like the WSPRnet database = showing=20 stations on each band monitoring and TXing? It helps to know = someone is=20 looking!
  3. Can we have a "read me" that explains what is meant to happen = on the=20 screen?
Tried a brief transmission on 136 into my earth = electrodes=20 as my loop antenna is down without success (so far) but just had my = first=20 decode on RX in Opera8:

20:07  SM6BHZ 136 Op8 -19 = dB 951=20 km @ 046  - not bad for 2 ground rods and no = antenna!

73s and=20 thanks for this interesting new mode Graham.

Roger=20 G3XBM


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