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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 10:56:53 -0000
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Well Andy I take it you are not keen on Morse. It is so exciting with a
human in Control,  your own brain doing all the work instead of watching a
Black Box. Amazing stuff some would say.
First Time did you say ?? I recall reading your article about a 700W TX you
built and you state it BLEW UP several times before it settled down !!
Buckets of zapped FETS
G3KEV

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@gmail.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: LF: opera 137 beacon going


Mal - the ultimate satisfaction for some of us is to construct Tx / Rx
and other things that work first time, and possibly use them, or give
the deigns awy to others who will.   Or write software, or data modes
or whatever.

I get no enjoyment , satisfaction, or anything from even contemplating
using that morse stuff.  It is a foreign language I was forced to
learn to get a G4 Licence.  Forced to do in much the same way I had to
do French O-Level at school, we couldn't opt out.

So please stop shouting that you consider yourself vastly superior to
anyone else as you can speak a foreign language.


Andy
'jnt


On 11 January 2012 09:42, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
> Roger
> The ultimate satisfaction for a radio amateur is to construct the TX/RX
and
> have the ability and skill to send/receive manual morse then communicate
> with fellow radio amateurs near and far and have a two way communication.
> Even more exciting with a QRP rig when you get a reply from Rara Tonga in
> the Pacific
> All the other appliance operator data modes are fun but in the end the
> operator is only observing a machine at work.
> Over the years I have tried most of the alternative data modes around and
> had a BBS GB7KEV running for years on both VHF es HF
> Packet, Amtor, Pactor, RTTY, PSK etc and the newer more recent modes but
> there is no substitute for the real think like a home built rig and able
> to pound a morse key.
> 73 de mal/g3kev
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Roger Lapthorn
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 7:35 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: opera 137 beacon going
>
> Mal
>
> Agreed about working VK/ZL on any HF band with CW and moderate power.
>
> However, WSPR, JT65HF, QRSS and OPERA (as examples of weak signal modes)
> demonstrate that it is possible to communicate over such distances
regularly
> with next to no power at all: people are regularly working HF
> intercontinental DX, or getting amazing beaconing reports, with just a few
> milliwatts or even microwatts thanks to these new modes. WSPR has
certainly
> proved its worth on MF and LF for me beyond any doubt and there is rarely
a
> day when a few watts does not get me a 10m WSPR report from Australia; at
> times just 5mW is enough with my small Homebase10 wire halo. Now whether
> this digitally assisted communications is more satisfying (or cleverer)
than
> working ZL with 100W on 20wpm CW on an HF band I cannot judge.
>
> As much as I enjoy modes like WSPR, there is little to compare with
working
> DX with a 500mW of CW from a simple homebrew transceiver and antenna.
There
> is still plenty of HF CW thank goodness.
>
> All the best and 73s
>
> Roger G3XBM
>
>
> On 10 January 2012 18:23, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
>>
>> Graham
>> I can work ZL on 10 Mhz on CW frequently and on 160 metres and on any
band
>> 160 - 10 metres. no doubt it is interesting to experiment with data but
it
>> is so easy on CW for those who know how to hammer the old key.
>>
>>
>> de mal/g3kev
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 4:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: LF: opera 137 beacon going
>>
>>
>> > Amazing , day 10 , ZL> EU decodes on HF 10Mhz and a beacon on
>> > 136
>> > will take a look for you later Andy
>> > Tnx -G
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --------------------------------------------------
>> > From: "Andy Talbot" <andy.g4jnt@gmail.com>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 4:06 PM
>> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> > Subject: LF: opera 137 beacon going
>>
>> >
>> > > Having had to modify a 137kHz source to be able to generate on-off
>> > > keying, I'm transmitting a signal using 2.048s symbol mode on
137420Hz
>> > > 33% duty cycle (for now)
>> > >
>> > > This is based around my PIC generator for the mode
>> > > Details at http://www.g4jnt.com/PIC_Opera_Source.pdf and
>> > > http://www.g4jnt.com/OperaBeacon.zip
>> > >
>> > > As its an independent source, with no PC in the Tx chain - no IP
>> > > packets will be sent to t'web showing the details
>> > >
>> > > and its definitely gettign out....
>> > >
>> > > 15:46 136 G8IMR de F6CNI Op8 391 km -28 dB in 136 kHz dial nr Paris
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Andy
>> > > G4JNT
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>
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