Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-df06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 615E43800012B; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 07:36:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RowdZ-0007fX-Ee for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:35:09 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RowdY-0007fO-Gq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:35:08 +0000 Received: from smtp15.mail.ru ([94.100.176.133]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RowdV-0005Ws-TO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:35:08 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mail.ru; s=mail; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject:References:To:From:Message-ID; bh=oTe+8qqzpV1hb3wZSreSc15Ov0QzbeTOaVvlZiuDls4=; b=0/u8u566CX6jBw49DzfKWPSNVxBnQqWpSMhpp0RCDIw3g9WRVytQEJn88lvQy01ySN4BLk7sPE2njMxHr69w1n6w+d8kxKZpJPQS7YDIbLuTRvsKBZDODWQc6Z8sjN3y; Received: from [79.98.8.29] (port=15193 helo=EFREMOV) by smtp15.mail.ru with esmtpa (envelope-from ) id 1RowdP-00056D-HC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 16:35:00 +0400 X-Nat-Received: 172.16.10.160 Message-ID: <003101ccd902$2d6111c0$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: "rn3agc" To: References: <4F1BE531.7370.A577295@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 16:33:49 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Mru-NR: 1 X-Mru-UID: 40413475 X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-Mru-Karma: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Opera - initial thoughts Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:482678656:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m202.2 ; domain : mail.ru DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40da4f1c02c36901 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Mike, >>No DX reports have been receved, although well-equipped stations in >>UA and W have been active. Possibly, you mean also my station. I will clear a situation. The grabber in KO86NP works with the downconverter. An exit 30 khz. Therefore there is no possibility to use Opera. In Moscow (KO85SV) strong QRM - 9+ on s-meter. At night I have received signal UA4WPF only because this station is close. 73 Andrey >I have been using Opera on 136kHz for about a week now. My initial > findings are as follows: > > Around 12 stations have reported on my signals, in G, GW, F, DL, and > PA. > > No DX reports have been receved, although well-equipped stations in > UA and W have been active. > > I have received Russian stations as far as 3500km away. > > Several stations are active who are not visible on this group. > > The main benefits of Opera require an Internet connection. > > The slower Opera32 is more effective than Opera8, which is to be > expected. > > It is much easier to run overnight tests than with QRSS, because > effectively every receiving station has a 'grabber'. > > It is easy to run both transmit and receive tests over the same > night. > > The software changes are now further apart (every few days, instead > of daily) and new versions are no longer incompatilble with the > previous ones. > > Although two stations can independently report on each other's > signals, a QSO mode would be a really useful addition. > > My conclusion is that Opera seems to be a very useful propagation > research tool, and could be a good communications mode. > > Is it better than QRSS? Well, it is a useful way to make a two-way > QSO during periods of good conditions that are too short to support a > QRSS30-60 contact. G4WGT and VO1NA have already demonstrated this. > However, I have not yet seen any evidence that it can beat QRSS at > the most marginal level. It could easily replace most QRSS3 contacts > when signals are good. > > I can see my call on QRSS grabbers in TF, 4X, UA, VE and W quite > often and would have expected some Opera reports from these > distances. One issue might be that all stations are in the same > narrow sub-band, which works fine on HF with very short ground wave, > but may be inappropriate for LF where huge local signals compete with > marginal DX. This was a problem with QRSS DX, which is why we now > operate split frequency. > > I shall continue using Opera, but willl also use QRSS for DX tests. > > 73 de Mike, G3XDV > =============== > > > > >