Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mp01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id F154F380000AD; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:32:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RsF8y-0000YQ-95 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:57:12 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RsF8x-0000YH-JQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:57:11 +0000 Received: from out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.244]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RsF8v-0008Ng-3x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:57:11 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EAGoAKE9cHYBK/2dsb2JhbABDrl+BBoFtBQEBBQgBAQNJAiwBAQMFAgEDEQQBAQolFAEEGgYWCAYTCgECAgEBDodgp06RPYs7DQEJGAsZAYQRCAEEBCUBgzEEgluFMoU4mi8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,596,1320624000"; d="scan'208,217";a="515785297" Received: from host-92-29-128-74.as13285.net (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([92.29.128.74]) by out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 31 Jan 2012 14:57:02 +0000 Message-ID: <001501cce028$96bfaf00$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <4F27D61D.1080401@talktalk.net> <002f01cce011$bb769b40$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4F27DEDD.4010101@talktalk.net> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:57:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: QRS3-OPERA Challenge Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01CCE028.9643A130" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:450275296:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1dc1454f28097552bb X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CCE028.9643A130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eddie Does FANT0M ring a bell !!!!!!!!!!!!! QRS 3 F A N T (ZERO) M mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: qrss=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:30 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: QRS3-OPERA Challenge Great stuff Mal I don't use the OPERA waterfall always, I use SpecLab in QRS3 = settings. Of course if we use Speclab to reduce the bandwidth to observe = the QRS3 we are moving the goal posts as in Marcus' example and we must = narrow the RX bandwidth to feed the OPERA decoder to compensate. However my previous tests reveal that with all the armoury available = the QRS3 boys do not read the signal. **************** THERE IS A PHANTOM IN THE OPERA STILL TO BE REVEALED = ******************** On 31/01/2012 12:13, mal hamilton wrote:=20 For a start I am not always in the shack to observe received signals = but this morning I did observe your on/off elements then a decode. Normally I use my E/W LOOP for EU reception and reports and in this = case I do not hear/see N/S ie cannot see or decode ur signal. I did however switch to the inv L antenna to compare signals and did = get a decode on you.=20 When I get time I will have a look at your QRS3 properly on Speclab g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: qrss=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 11:53 AM Subject: LF: QRS3-OPERA Challenge The QRS3 Opera challenge has been running for almost 24 Hours now, = continuously, I initially proposed it as a one shot operation. Last night I asked G3XIZ to read my Phantom QRS3 to ensure that it = is readable and at S6 it certainly was. Many stations have decoded my OPERA during the period. NO ONE = except XIZ has reported the QRS3. OPERA (and by default from previous tests WSPR) has won hands = down. G3KEV has received my signal several times :- 11:11 500 G3ZJO = de G3KEV Op4 229 km -27 dB in SCARBOROUGH .and observed at least once :- G3ZJO decoded and stopped at 1057 z TRACE visible during = transmission. I happened to be in the shack to observe Please can we keep this practical test on a sensible technical = level. 73 Eddie G3ZJO ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CCE028.9643A130 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Eddie
Does FANT0M ring a bell !!!!!!!!!!!!! QRS = 3   F=20 A N T (ZERO) M
mal/g3kev
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 qrss
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 = 12:30=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: QRS3-OPERA = Challenge

Great stuff Mal

I don't use the OPERA waterfall = always,=20 I use SpecLab in QRS3 settings. Of course if we use Speclab to reduce = the=20 bandwidth to observe the QRS3 we are moving the goal posts as in = Marcus'=20 example and we must narrow the RX bandwidth to feed the OPERA decoder = to=20 compensate.

However my previous tests reveal that with all the = armoury=20 available the QRS3 boys do not read the=20 signal.

**************** THERE IS A PHANTOM IN THE = OPERA STILL=20 TO BE REVEALED ********************


On 31/01/2012 = 12:13,=20 mal hamilton wrote:=20
For a start I am not always in the shack to = observe=20 received signals but this morning I did observe your on/off elements = then a=20 decode.
Normally I use my E/W LOOP for EU reception = and=20 reports and in this case I do not hear/see N/S ie cannot see or = decode ur=20 signal.
I did however switch to the inv L = antenna to=20 compare signals and did get a decode on you.
When I get time I will have a look at = your=20 QRS3 properly on Speclab
g3kev
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 qrss
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, = 2012 11:53=20 AM
Subject: LF: QRS3-OPERA=20 Challenge

The QRS3 Opera challenge has been running for = almost 24=20 Hours now, continuously, I initially proposed it as a one shot=20 operation.

Last night I asked G3XIZ to read my Phantom QRS3 = to=20 ensure that it is readable and at S6 it certainly was.

Many = stations have decoded my OPERA during the period. NO ONE except = XIZ has=20 reported the QRS3.

OPERA (and by default from previous = tests WSPR)=20 has won hands down.

G3KEV has received my signal several = times :-=20 11:11    500 G3ZJO de G3KEV Op4 229 km -27 dB in=20 SCARBOROUGH

.and observed at least once :-
G3ZJO decoded and = stopped at=20 1057 z TRACE visible during transmission. I happened to be in = the shack=20 to observe
Please can we keep this practical = test on a=20 sensible technical level.

73 Eddie=20 G3ZJO

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