Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-me06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 1D0AC38000096; Sat, 31 Dec 2011 11:46:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Rh23X-0002Yl-FB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 31 Dec 2011 16:45:15 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Rh23W-0002Yc-RW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 31 Dec 2011 16:45:14 +0000 Received: from mail-we0-f171.google.com ([74.125.82.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Rh23U-0004Vg-Ks for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 31 Dec 2011 16:45:14 +0000 Received: by werg1 with SMTP id g1so12899570wer.16 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2011 08:45:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=uUHeyo0G1TUuwnMkqf3PF9mbMl4if93CAiNWIp2ImSI=; b=lrG/AnUqUkq3svZRD5XBGYIDoQV+CtzpcaKCbkg3EBFBdb7ql0KD3RAAPB6plXNLUm JfmJ7yGtd2bhjcrHOANSjcGiholvrL81Z5RHXCw10QFAKuWpqtka7jdwWjJqpBbT916c qGN9b+BqqffpUqDJJNy/V8l72Y211J1WuhU68= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.134.196 with SMTP id s46mr24007807wei.44.1325349906659; Sat, 31 Dec 2011 08:45:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.90.74 with HTTP; Sat, 31 Dec 2011 08:45:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <012401ccc7d9$e454b8d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> References: <00e401ccc7cc$182426e0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <012401ccc7d9$e454b8d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 11:45:06 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Douglas D. Williams" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 136 kHz in TN Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6de173c63bc0804b566121f X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:507084896:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d020.1 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d608e4eff3c4f0a02 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --0016e6de173c63bc0804b566121f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes, I definitely noticed the strong signals frum EU just after local sunset, with lots of fading in and out during the (my) night. I need to read up on VLF/LF propagation. I thought it was mostly groundwave (and I suppose it is at VLF), but 136 kHz seems to experience a good bit of fading. Oh, it's no problem on the computer. I've been wanting a 2nd computer up here anyway just so I don't tie up my main PC with Argo, Spectrum Lab etc. Just have to clear some desk space.... 73, Doug On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 11:33 AM, mal hamilton wrote: > ** > Doug > I keep a separate computer for radio work on UTC but do not worry too much > about it now that I know there is 5 hours difference. > A good time for EU dx reception is around 0630 - 0730 utc grey line just > before sunrise here in the UK, another good time is just > before and after your sunset. These appear to be the peak signal times at > present. In between these times there is variable propagation until either > end gets into daylight > de mal/g3kev > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Douglas D. Williams > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Sent:* Saturday, December 31, 2011 4:04 PM > *Subject:* Re: LF: Re: 136 kHz in TN > > Actually, I came up with a rather simple solution. I have an extra > computer in the basement that I think I will bring upstairs and press into > service as a "radio computer". I'll keep the clock on that one set to UTC, > so all loggings will bear the UTC time stamp. I'll just need to buy a cheap > sound card for it, as, if I remember correctly, it has no onboard sound. > > Doug > > On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Douglas D. Williams wrote: > >> Mal, >> >> Thanks for the welcome and the information. I took a quick look at ARGO >> and it seems to get it's time stamp from whatever the computer clock is set >> to, which happens to be EST for me (UTC -5). I did not see a way to change >> it in ARGO without changing the main computer clock to UTC, so I'll just do >> the conversion myself and report it in the text portion of any future >> receptions. :-) >> >> 73, Doug KB4OER >> >> On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 9:54 AM, mal hamilton wrote: >> >>> ** >>> Hi Doug >>> I hope you are enjoying the LF activity on 136 Khz. >>> Tnx for the report from Tennessee. My location is Scarborough, East >>> coast England - IO94SH. Distance between us is 6318 K/metres >>> If you need any more info let me know >>> I was transmitting QRSS 30 and listening on 7033 Khz for any xband calls >>> for a QSO >>> Because of so many time zones to the East es West of me maybe UTC time >>> reporting would be better if possible. Not sure what the time difference is >>> between UTC es EST >>> 73 es GL and agn tnx hpe to hear from u agn soon >>> de mal/g3kev/IO94SH >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:* Douglas D. Williams >>> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 31, 2011 1:55 PM >>> *Subject:* LF: 136 kHz in TN >>> >>> Hello all. I just joined this reflector and thought I would post last >>> night's TA reception of DK7FC and G3KEV. Time stamps on ARGO are in Eastern >>> Standard Time. >>> >>> Nice signals here in Tennessee, guys. >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Doug - KB4OER >>> Grid EM86ui >>> >>> >>> http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j231/Goranothos/DK7FC.jpg >>> >>> >>> http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j231/Goranothos/KEV.jpg >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > --0016e6de173c63bc0804b566121f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, I definitely noticed the strong signals frum EU just after local = sunset, with lots of fading in and out during the (my) night. I need to rea= d up on VLF/LF propagation. I thought it was mostly groundwave (and I suppo= se it is at VLF), but 136 kHz seems to experience a good bit of fading.
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Oh, it's no problem on the computer. I've been w= anting a 2nd computer up here anyway just so I don't tie up my main PC = with Argo, Spectrum Lab etc. Just have to clear some desk space....
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73,
Doug

On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 11:33 AM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> = wrote:
Doug
I keep a separate computer for radio work on UTC = but do=20 not worry too much about it now that I know there is 5 hours=20 difference.
A good time for EU dx reception is=A0around 0630 = - 0730=20 utc grey line just before sunrise here in the UK, another good time is=A0= =20 just before=A0and=A0after=A0your sunset.=A0=A0These=A0appear=20 to be the peak signal times at present. In between these times there is var= iable=20 propagation until either end gets into daylight
de mal/g3kev
=A0
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 201= 1 4:04=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 136 kHz in TN

Actually, I came up with a rather simple solution. I have an extra= =20 computer in the basement that I think I will bring upstairs and press int= o=20 service as a "radio computer". I'll keep the clock on that = one set to UTC, so=20 all loggings will bear the UTC time stamp. I'll just need to buy a ch= eap sound=20 card for it, as, if I remember correctly, it has no onboard sound.
=A0
Doug

On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Douglas D. W= illiams=20 <kb4oer@gmail.com> wrote:
Mal,
=A0
Thanks for the welcome and the information. I took a quick look at= ARGO=20 and it seems to get it's time stamp from whatever the computer cloc= k is set=20 to, which happens to be EST for me (UTC -5). I did not see a way to cha= nge=20 it in ARGO without changing the main computer clock to UTC, so I'll= just do=20 the conversion myself and report it in the text portion of any future= =20 receptions. :-)
=A0
73, Doug KB4OER

On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 9:54 AM, mal hamilto= n <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
Hi Doug
I hope you are enjoying the LF activity on = 136=20 Khz.
Tnx for=A0the report from Tennessee. My loc= ation=20 is Scarborough, East coast England - IO94SH.=A0Distance between us is= =20 6318 K/metres
If you need any more info let me know
I was transmitting QRSS 30 and listening on= 7033 Khz=20 for any xband calls for a QSO
Because of so many time zones to the East e= s West of=20 me=A0maybe UTC time reporting=A0would be better if possible. Not=20 sure what the time difference is between UTC es EST
73 es GL and agn tnx hpe to hear from u agn= soon=20
de mal/g3kev/IO94SH
=A0
=A0
=A0
-----=20 Original Message -----
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent:=20 Saturday, December 31, 2011 1:55 PM
Subject:=20 LF: 136 kHz in TN

Hello all. I just joined this reflector and thought I would po= st=20 last night's TA reception of DK7FC and G3KEV. Time stamps on AR= GO are in=20 Eastern Standard Time.
=A0
Nice signals here in Tennessee, guys.
=A0
73,
=A0
Doug - KB4OER
Grid EM86ui
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