Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 9FE4638000112; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 09:29:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RceCj-0003X2-3a for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:28:37 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RceCi-0003Wt-MQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:28:36 +0000 Received: from mail.uk.thalesgroup.com ([192.93.164.29] helo=Alfaes01.gwserv.thalesgroup.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RceCg-0001ya-DX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:28:36 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,376,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="29187480" Received: from echoes01.gwserv.thalesgroup.com (HELO gwserv.thalesgroup.com) ([172.31.141.5]) by Alfaes01.gwserv.thalesgroup.com with ESMTP; 19 Dec 2011 14:28:28 +0000 Received: from ([193.150.182.142]) by echoes01.gwserv.thalesgroup.com with ESMTP id 8BYFQH1.22875986; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:28:24 +0000 Received: by temps153538.tms-ltd.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:28:23 -0000 Message-ID: <8E8D23D235D70840B6582917DF27898013DCA5F7@temps153538.tms-ltd.com> From: Reeves Paul To: "'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'" Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:28:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Antenna ideas for Stefan Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=EXCUSE_16 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:452775616:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60154eef4a612d55 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none As usual the Americans had not read the history books. Someone had done it before. The following extract comes courtesy of G4KHU. " From the writings of a very distinguished author.................................. On the island of Java, in what was then the Dutch East Indies, a powerful long wave transmitting station was erected at Malabar near Bandung by an engineer of the name Dr ir C.J. de Groot. He was responsible for the design and construction of the station and also the installation of Telefunken high frequency alternator transmitters although what made this station exceptional was the two enormous 2.4 Mega-Watt arc transmitters for direct communication with Holland de Groot installed. The first of these transmitters went into service in May 1923 operating on a wavelength of 15,600 metres (19.2 kHz). The Malabar station was a remarkable installation being constructed in the tropics far away from the industrial and scientific centres in Europe where many of its component parts were manufactured. De Groot had to employ a number of innovations to overcome obstacles such as shortages or delays in the supply of vital components. An aeroplane engine and the motor from an electric tram found their way into the installation whilst more permanent solutions were being sought. One particular factor that made such a powerful station possible was the mountainous terrain on the island of Java. The long wave antenna was supported between two mountain ridges giving it an elevation of around 700 metres and making it one of the tallest long wave antennas ever to be built. De Groot had experience with Telefunken equipment and many of the wireless station parts were manufactured in Holland or Germany giving a good indication of the capabilities of Marconi's competitors. The Netherlands 'home' station was built at Kootwijk in central Holland. It also used Telefunken technology but due to delays in the commencement of its construction was not ready for service until after the Malabar station had been completed. " Paul Reeves G8GJA -----Original Message----- From: Dexter McIntyre W4DEX [mailto:dexter.mc@gmail.com] Sent: 18 December 2011 15:16 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Antenna ideas for Stefan http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf&AD=AD02850 55 This email, including any attachment, is a confidential communication intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. It contains information which is private and may be proprietary or covered by legal professional privilege. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender upon receipt, and immediately delete it from your system. Anything contained in this email that is not connected with the businesses of this company is neither endorsed by nor is the liability of this company. 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