Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 92F5A3800009C; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 14:42:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RdoVm-0005ex-I1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 19:41:06 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RdoVm-0005eo-2Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 19:41:06 +0000 Received: from cpsmtpb-ews02.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.39.5]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RdoVk-0002Qj-IL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2011 19:41:06 +0000 Received: from cpsps-ews19.kpnxchange.com ([10.94.84.185]) by cpsmtpb-ews02.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 22 Dec 2011 20:40:59 +0100 Received: from CPSMTPM-CMT102.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.18]) by cpsps-ews19.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Thu, 22 Dec 2011 20:40:58 +0100 Received: from acer ([81.204.139.159]) by CPSMTPM-CMT102.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6002.18264); Thu, 22 Dec 2011 20:40:58 +0100 Message-ID: <22C8182174B34200BFF6AE3E3E90A40A@acer> From: "henny van elst" To: References: <4EF3689B.1030902@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 20:38:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Dec 2011 19:40:58.0656 (UTC) FILETIME=[A0E6DA00:01CCC0E1] X-RcptDomain: blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: Re: Automatic Variometer adjustment at DK7FC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-15"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:478163328:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60174ef3882643e0 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hello Stefan,nice job, henny cpm 73's ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Schäfer" To: Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 6:27 PM Subject: LF: Automatic Variometer adjustment at DK7FC > LF, > > I'm totally thrilled. > Yesterday in the night i designed a circuit to automatically resonate my > LF TX system by tuning the variometer. This allows to exactly hold the > phase and hold the antenna in resonance in changing sourrounding > conditions, like upcoming rain. But the most useful feature is: It > automatically adjusts the variometer if i do QSY (remote operation!),e.g. > if i go from 137.7 to 136.172 it re-adjusts the system in less than 5 > seconds! > > A small drive engine is used to turn the small coil into the main LF > loading coil, see: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/LF_variometer_drive_engine_arrangement.jpg > The drive engine works from 3...24V DC and takes 0.15A. It is steered > automatically by the circuit described below. > > The basic phase measurement circuit is taken from the M0BMU tuning meter > which one can find somewhere in the web and here: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/LFtunemeter.pdf BTW this tuning meter > is THE most useful device for antenna measurements at all, in my opinion. > The phase meter can directly drive an analog meter showing if there is a > positive or negative or no phase (=resonance) between voltage and current. > I took a very nostalgic and high quality analog meter to nicely display > the phase, see http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/phase_meter.jpg. The > circuit works very nice and accurate. Resonance showing and the maximum of > the antenna current exactly coincides. The circuit need no external power > supply. > > The automatic motor drive circuit is here: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/DK7FC%20Automatic_variometer_tuner%20.jpg > It uses a quad OP amp, TL084. The first stage low pass filters and > amplifies the input voltage (taken from the analog phase meter, i.e. > switched in parallel), which has a DC part and a 137 kHz ripple. Another > OP amp generates the ground level which is in the middle of the 12 supply > voltage (e.g. a battery or usual power supply). Then there are 2 > comparators and a ICL7667 MOSFET driver. The 7667 works in a H bridge > configuration and inverse switches the outputs. The outputs can be > opposite in both directions, turning the engine CW or CCW or they can have > equal potential to stop the engine. 2 BAT42 shottky diodes are used to > generate a +- 0.3V threshold voltage to prevent self oscillation arround > the resonance point. The sensitivity of this circuit and the phase > threshold (hysterisis) can be aligned by adjusting the gain of the input > OP amp stage. The 7667 provides a low impedance output switching and easy > circuit design (no discrete push pull stages or so). A resistor is put in > series to the engine to reduce its speed a bit. Also a 0.1A poly switch > type fuse is put in series. This fuse is under-dimensioned for the engine > but will work for a few seconds before it interrupts. This a some fail > save protection in case the circuit may be damaged by what ever and wants > to turn the engine endless. Two anti parallel switched LEDs indicate a > running engine and its direction. They will be labeled with L+ and L- > later on the PA front panel. > > As a test i was transmitting a key down carrier at 137.7 kHz and activated > the circuit. A short impulse, indicated by one LED, set the variometer > EXACTLY to resonance. Then i QSYed to 137.0 kHz without interrupting the > TX. Since the frequency is lower, the L is to low. Thus the circuit acts > resistive-capacitive and the phase angle is negative. L must be increased. > The phase meter first jumped into the negative half of the meter but it > took about 2 seconds until it came quickly back to zero where it stopped > immediately. > I took the SpecLab frequency generator for that test (have an IQ mixer > that adds 125 kHz to the soundcard output, so i have to generate 12 kHz to > come out at 137 kHz). Then i added the FM modulator within the signal > generator and choosed a frequency deviation of 300 Hz and a period time of > 20 seconds. This is how that transmission looks on the DF6NM grabber: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/137kHz_%2B_FM0.3kHz.jpg > Without the automatic tuner beeing active the phase meter moves like a > windscreen wiper of course. When the circuit is active the needle of the > meter does very fine twitch but does not leave the resonance significantly > at all! :-) > The experts know how the LED blinking pattern must look: Faster blinking > on one side, then slower, then the other LED starts to blink slow, then > faster, slower again and so on :-)) > > There are still no mechanical switches in series to the engine supply, > which would be another fail save circuit, to be added later, hopefully ;-) > > This may be one way for other LF transmitting stations to increase the > comfort of running their TX system by automatically adjusting their system > to resonance, even when QSYing by > 1 kHz :-) > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > PS: A photo of the board is here: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/LF/automatic_variometer_board.jpg > PPS: Caution: This is not NEW and there are other circuits with similar > functionality existing!!!!! > > >