Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 6A21F380000A4; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 12:35:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RdPqI-0003Om-8c for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 17:20:38 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RdPqH-0003Od-NX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 17:20:37 +0000 Received: from out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.237]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RdPqF-0008L0-8C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 17:20:37 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgEBADQU8k5Ok8vB/2dsb2JhbABDiUqReo5mgXCBBoFtBQEBBQgBAQMlASMCDh4BAQMFAgEDEQQBAQEJJRQBBAgSBhYIBhMKAQICAQGHawa3ZIwPBIgEhQEpAZI/h0M X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,389,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="375404115" Received: from host-78-147-203-193.as13285.net (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([78.147.203.193]) by out1.ip01ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 21 Dec 2011 17:20:28 +0000 Message-ID: <004a01ccc004$d480e140$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <002701ccbf2c$961a3d30$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf><001b01ccbf47$caa361b0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf><4EF128FA.30001@gmail.com><000f01ccbfc0$412f59b0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf><4EF1EC60.3010900@gmail.com><000f01ccbfef$75078da0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf><001b01ccbffb$df917490$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 17:20:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Fw: TA CONDX/QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:498351232:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4084ef218fb116d X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Warren I would say your 4W erp could be heard in EU by those with a proper antenna for the job but probably not by the majority using toy micro antennas suitable only for QRSS speeds. I say again I have over the years heard signal from the USA on 137 althought they were transmitted in QRS mode, certainly loud enought for a CW QSO. Using my Transmitting resonated antenna for RX does enable me at times to hear stns from East coast USA. I have reported this in the past at the time received. Whether someone was stretching the rules as you suggest I do not know I can also RX regularly CW signals from the USA on the 500 khz band, again in the past this has been reported, these are also strong enough for a QSO and I have had a 500 QSO with the USA I think we have exhausted this subject now !! g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Ziegler" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 4:47 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Fw: TA CONDX/QSO Mal, Yes I have missed the frontier days, we must find new challenges to keep it interesting! BTW my ERP on 137 has been measured as 4W by a broadcast engineer and prominent LFer, yet I don't think that's enough for a T/A cw QSO. I imagine that given the 1W ERP limit for EU hams someone was stretching the rules a bit to make cw QSOs across the pond! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:16 AM, mal hamilton wrote: > Well I had an aural report from VE1ZZ and he certainly copied MM0ALM on CW > in fact they might have had a CW qso but it is so long ago it is now > history, another stn that copied us was NC1K and a AA1 something, I might > have it recorded in an old paper log somewhere. > This is years ago and I do not keep records of something that became > routine. > I did not know that ZZ was SK. Over the years I worked him on numerous > occassions on 160 metres early evening still daylight here at times. . > and for a while he was testing on 500 Khz. I had a report from him on that > band, I must check if I logged the acty (it is not necessary to keep a log > book in the UK) > Around at the time was VE1ZZ, NC1K a AA1 stn VE1JG I think and others that > called me xband on 7033 whose calls I do not remember but have gone from the > scene some years back maybe before you got going. I think Warren you have > missed the fun and frontier days !! > de mal/g3kev > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Warren Ziegler" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:10 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Fw: TA CONDX/QSO > > > Mal, > On MM0ALM's QRZ.COM page there is a reference to a 1650 ft tower > and PSK 31 transmissions on 136kHz. > > There is also a link to a QRSS capture received by VE1ZZ - (and not a > very good capture, that signal would not have been audible by a long > shot! ): > > http://www.wireless.org.uk/newspic40.htm > > VE1ZZ has gone sk so I don't know who else could verify these stories. > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > > > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Warren Ziegler wrote: >> Mal, >> >> What was MM0ALM running (TX/ant) ? >> I have been active about 8 years and have never seen him mentioned before. >> >> -- >> 73 Warren K2ORS >> WD2XGJ >> WD2XSH/23 >> WE2XEB/2 >> WE2XGR/1 >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:47 AM, mal hamilton > wrote: >>> I think you are talking about QRS I am talking CW, Did u ever listen on > CW? >>> MM0ALM was the strongest signal from anywhere world wide at the time >>> obviously Dex you were not around on LF at the time or on at the wrong > time. >>> You missed all the fun and I am going back as far as 12 years ago and in >>> between but not in recent years >>> >>> >>> mal/g3kev >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Dexter McIntyre W4DEX" >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 2:25 PM >>> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Fw: TA CONDX/QSO >>> >>> >>>> I can't find any record of ever receiving MMØALM or EIØCF. The >>>> strongest 137 khz signals that I can find record of listed in order are >>>> CT1DRP, G3AQC, G3LDO and MØBMU. >>>> >>>> Dex >>>> >>>> mal hamilton wrote: >>>> > Dex >>>> > Maybe not at ur QTH but certainly around the Boston area and Canada > some >>>> > years back. MM0ALM was the strongest signal from the UK and at that > time >>>> > signals from the rest of EU were generally weak. EI0CF was also a > strong >>>> > signal in the USA. Both are now QRT on LF and I only come on at > selected >>>> > times in QSO mode. After a few calls if no one replies I QRT. >>>> > Not interested here in pumping out Beacon mode 24/7 in the hope of a > QSL >>>> > EMAIL from Bandjudestrahta >>>> > Merry Xmas >>>> > de mal/g3kev >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>>> > From: "Dexter McIntyre W4DEX" >>>> > To: >>>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:31 AM >>>> > Subject: Re: LF: Re: Fw: TA CONDX/QSO >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >> No DX 2200 meter signal has every been audible at this location. I've >>>> >> been at this ever since the first TA crossing by G3AQC and MØBMU. And >>>> >> I've got the award to prove it :) >>>> >> >>>> >> Dex >>>> >> >>>> >> mal hamilton wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >>> ps >>>> >>> >>>> >>> MM0ALM was a strong audible signal in those days in the USA >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> > > > -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1