Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 5EE9F38000091; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 15:27:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RLgSc-0005tB-3E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 19:26:54 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RLgSb-0005t0-IO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 19:26:53 +0000 Received: from mail-qw0-f43.google.com ([209.85.216.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RLgSY-0003Cv-SE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 19:26:53 +0000 Received: by qabg1 with SMTP id g1so763443qab.16 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 12:26:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Xu38LrUELUTMAGMlWFy86x3AJvsSK2eENp0+HBrTRuQ=; b=T0D1j7gBigR3FIQa4CeVvn1mbRyEiPvEAfXgwC5/IQ2VlwhHrvZro/mVOoCX2tmff1 ufSIYHwwXvZpw9c7fmEWMZMI30tfrpB2JeihbspHyh7c6vcGX6jW9JTq0eHai5mY6c86 r4y4qjYh/Bcemj6QfekSTjb3XdHCq55u9Cb9M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.28.133 with SMTP id b5mr6707553pbh.28.1320262003933; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 12:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.64.106 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 12:26:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <006101cc9993$c87dc670$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> References: <002301cc997d$217d8e20$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <003801cc9982$a3f0d790$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <005301cc998f$2876a920$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <006101cc9993$c87dc670$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 15:26:43 -0400 Message-ID: From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 5 Whats? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:496986880:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m216.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4054eb199bf481f X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Mal, Surely you jest, the reference is to the beatitudes as they appear in the Gospel of Matthew: " Blessed are: ... the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. " 73 Warren On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 3:15 PM, mal hamilton wrote: > Warren > A magazine I expect that I am not familiar with > mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Warren Ziegler" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 6:59 PM > Subject: Re: LF: 5 Whats? > > > Mal, > > =A0Matthew 5:5 > King James version > > 73 Warren > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 2:42 PM, mal hamilton wrot= e: >> Correct !! especially over your way but in the UK the Appliance Operator >> punter thinks only in terms of uWatts. Just read the emails on here. >> de mal/g3kev >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Warren Ziegler" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 6:30 PM >> Subject: Re: LF: 5 Whats? >> >> >> Mal, >> >> I know some hams here that seem interested in 500kHz but when >> they find out the ARRL experimental license is for 20W ERP CW, PSK and >> WSPR on a total band of 27kHz they lose interest. >> >> I image that even fewer will be interested in 5W and 8 kHz >> >> -- >> 73 Warren K2ORS >> WD2XGJ >> WD2XSH/23 >> WE2XEB/2 >> WE2XGR/1 >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:08 PM, mal hamilton > wrote: >>> Warren >>> At the present time it is a Bodge anyway. I can understand the commerci= al >>> interest, also a lot of Hams are not really interested in the band. The= re >>> are only about 3 UK stns that I hear on the odd time in QSO mode, a few >>> others around EU are belching out beacons and QSL via internet, hardly >>> impressive to those that issue Permits. If the plug was pulled I would > not >>> be too concerned because 160 metres is similar but has a big occupancy >> with >>> QSO MODE being the norm, mostly CW with some SSB. >>> On LF it is the same tale, although this is now an International band >> there >>> is very little interest, in fact the band occupancy has gone down over > the >>> years. >>> It is now the same half dozen on the band daily and mostly Beacon mode > qsl >>> via internet. The odd QRS 600000000000 does take place but virtually no >> CW. >>> At present I would say that LF es MF is a total waste of time and effor= t >>> I have 4 nice Decca amps Hi Band for 137 going Rusty!!!!!!! in spite of >> this >>> I am still using my 1Kw h/brew. CQ on CW but no replies. >>> >>> mal/g3kev >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Warren Ziegler" >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 4:41 PM >>> Subject: Re: LF: 5 Whats? >>> >>> >>> Mal, >>> >>> The maritime industry trade group has been pushing back against >>> hams on 500kHz in the hope that they can persuade governments to fund >>> a new relatively broadband data service there. >>> The maritime group has standing with CEPT and the ITU and they >>> apparently have money and effective lobbyists behind them, the hams on >>> the other hand are left to pick up scraps that fall off the table and >>> are expected to be thankful for them! >>> >>> -- >>> 73 Warren K2ORS >>> WD2XGJ >>> WD2XSH/23 >>> WE2XEB/2 >>> WE2XGR/1 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 12:33 PM, mal hamilton >> wrote: >>>> MF >>>> How did they arrive at that frequency range? No where near where we ar= e >> at >>>> present. New VFO'S and Xtals etc >>>> de mal/g3kev >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Warren Ziegler" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 3:34 PM >>>> Subject: Re: LF: 5 Whats? >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Laurence, >>>> >>>> 5 Watts? Do we get to have 40 channels and use a 'power mic' with >>>> reverb? >>>> Come On! >>>> >>>> 73 Warren K2ORS >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Laurence KL7UK >>>> wrote: >>>>> During the meeting of the CEPT WRC-12 Conference Preparatory Group he= ld >>> in >>>>> Bucharest between November 1st-4th 2011 an European Common Proposal w= as >>>>> agreed. This ECP represents the block vote of 48 administrations and > was >>>>> passed without dissent. It proposes an allocation to the amateur > service >>>>> between 472-480 kHz on a secondary basis with a maximum power limit o= f >> 5W >>>>> eirp. >>>>> This ECP will now be forwarded to the ITU as a contribution from CEPT= . >>>>> I would like to take this opportunity to thank all of those who >>>> participated >>>>> in the work of the working group that led to the adoption of this >>>>> proposal. Also thanks are due to those European Member Societies who >>>>> helped to influence their national administrations in this matter. >>>>> Now for WRC-12. >>>>> Colin, G3PSM >>>>> CEPT Co-ordinator for Agenda Item 1.23 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Laurence KL7UK >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> 73 Warren K2ORS >>>> WD2XGJ >>>> WD2XSH/23 >>>> WE2XEB/2 >>>> WE2XGR/1 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > > > > --=20 73 Warren K2ORS =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XGJ =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XSH/23 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XEB/2 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XGR/1