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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 14:59:01 -0400
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From: Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: 5 Whats?
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Mal,

  Matthew 5:5
King James version

73 Warren


On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 2:42 PM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:
> Correct !! especially over your way but in the UK the Appliance Operator
> punter thinks only in terms of uWatts. Just read the emails on here.
> de mal/g3kev
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 6:30 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: 5 Whats?
>
>
> Mal,
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0I know some hams here that seem interested in 500kHz but when
> they find out the ARRL experimental license is for 20W ERP CW, PSK and
> WSPR on a total band of 27kHz they lose interest.
>
> =A0I image that even fewer will be interested in 5W and 8 kHz
>
> --
> 73 Warren K2ORS
> WD2XGJ
> WD2XSH/23
> WE2XEB/2
> WE2XGR/1
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:08 PM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrot=
e:
>> Warren
>> At the present time it is a Bodge anyway. I can understand the commercia=
l
>> interest, also a lot of Hams are not really interested in the band. Ther=
e
>> are only about 3 UK stns that I hear on the odd time in QSO mode, a few
>> others around EU are belching out beacons and QSL via internet, hardly
>> impressive to those that issue Permits. If the plug was pulled I would n=
ot
>> be too concerned because 160 metres is similar but has a big occupancy
> with
>> QSO MODE being the norm, mostly CW with some SSB.
>> On LF it is the same tale, although this is now an International band
> there
>> is very little interest, in fact the band occupancy has gone down over t=
he
>> years.
>> It is now the same half dozen on the band daily and mostly Beacon mode q=
sl
>> via internet. The odd QRS 600000000000 does take place but virtually no
> CW.
>> At present I would say that LF es MF is a total waste of time and effort
>> I have 4 nice Decca amps Hi Band for 137 going Rusty!!!!!!! in spite of
> this
>> I am still using my 1Kw h/brew. CQ on CW but no replies.
>>
>> mal/g3kev
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 4:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: LF: 5 Whats?
>>
>>
>> Mal,
>>
>> The maritime industry trade group has been pushing back against
>> hams on 500kHz in the hope that they can persuade governments to fund
>> a new relatively broadband data service there.
>> The maritime group has standing with CEPT and the ITU and they
>> apparently have money and effective lobbyists behind them, the hams on
>> the other hand are left to pick up scraps that fall off the table and
>> are expected to be thankful for them!
>>
>> --
>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>> WD2XGJ
>> WD2XSH/23
>> WE2XEB/2
>> WE2XGR/1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 12:33 PM, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> wrote:
>>> MF
>>> How did they arrive at that frequency range? No where near where we are
> at
>>> present. New VFO'S and Xtals etc
>>> de mal/g3kev
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
>>> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 3:34 PM
>>> Subject: Re: LF: 5 Whats?
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Laurence,
>>>
>>> 5 Watts? Do we get to have 40 channels and use a 'power mic' with
>>> reverb?
>>> Come On!
>>>
>>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Laurence KL7UK
>>> <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> During the meeting of the CEPT WRC-12 Conference Preparatory Group hel=
d
>> in
>>>> Bucharest between November 1st-4th 2011 an European Common Proposal wa=
s
>>>> agreed. This ECP represents the block vote of 48 administrations and w=
as
>>>> passed without dissent. It proposes an allocation to the amateur servi=
ce
>>>> between 472-480 kHz on a secondary basis with a maximum power limit of
> 5W
>>>> eirp.
>>>> This ECP will now be forwarded to the ITU as a contribution from CEPT.
>>>> I would like to take this opportunity to thank all of those who
>>> participated
>>>> in the work of the working group that led to the adoption of this
>>>> proposal. Also thanks are due to those European Member Societies who
>>>> helped to influence their national administrations in this matter.
>>>> Now for WRC-12.
>>>> Colin, G3PSM
>>>> CEPT Co-ordinator for Agenda Item 1.23
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Laurence KL7UK
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>> WD2XGJ
>>> WD2XSH/23
>>> WE2XEB/2
>>> WE2XGR/1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>



--=20
73 Warren K2ORS
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XGJ
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XSH/23
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XEB/2
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XGR/1