Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-me03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 94B16380000BE; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 14:36:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RLfa9-0004jU-4S for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 18:30:37 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RLfa8-0004jL-Ma for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 18:30:36 +0000 Received: from rhcavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.129] helo=cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RLfa6-0002Yk-Q4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 18:30:36 +0000 X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-ID: BE7E6138025.ABA57 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7E6138025 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 19:30:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-HUB-N1.luna.kuleuven.be (icts-s-hub-n1.luna.kuleuven.be [10.112.9.11]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id A178331E702 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 19:30:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-EXC2-CA.luna.kuleuven.be ([10.112.11.13]) by ICTS-S-HUB-N1.luna.kuleuven.be ([10.112.9.11]) with mapi; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 19:30:27 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 19:30:27 +0100 Thread-Topic: LF: Re: 8kHz of spectrum Thread-Index: AcyZfP7aDS3IPeaHQgmieUGpRIVdbwADujMl Message-ID: References: , In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: nl-NL, nl-BE Content-Language: nl-BE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: nl-NL, nl-BE MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Re: 8kHz of spectrum Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:492627968:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d608b4eb18db73347 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Warren, all, 472-480kHz with 5W EIRP is the outcome of long and at moments very difficul= t negotiations. Indeed, my "wish list" would be 500-515kHz with 100W EIRP or so. But at the= end I prefer to have 472-480kHz with 5 W EIRP in many countries than the c= urrent 501-504kHz is just a few countries. About 5W EIRP: that is some dB above the power I have been using for the pa= st years. It is OK CW up to +2000km and up to 7000km in WSPR / QRSS3.=20 The small frequency move should at worst be a minor inconvenience to any re= al ham. And: this is still a proposal for WRC 2015, so fingers crossed (or not ?) u= ntil then. 73, Rik ON7YD ________________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ] namens Warren Ziegler [wd2xgj@gmail.com] Verzonden: woensdag 2 november 2011 17:30 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: Re: 8kHz of spectrum FYI the U.S. Experimental license WE2XGR covers 42kHz (460-480 and 493-515) with 1kW ERP and includes cw,ssb and all data modes. No interference problems to date. -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Tracey Gardner wrote: > There are a mere 68 active NDBs in that segment. > > 73s Tracey > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Laurence KL7UK > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 3:24 PM > Subject: LF: 5 Whats? > During the meeting of the CEPT WRC-12 Conference Preparatory Group held i= n > Bucharest between November 1st-4th 2011 an European Common Proposal was > agreed. This ECP represents the block vote of 48 administrations and wa= s > passed without dissent. It proposes an allocation to the amateur servic= e > between 472-480 kHz on a secondary basis with a maximum power limit of 5W > eirp. > This ECP will now be forwarded to the ITU as a contribution from CEPT. > I would like to take this opportunity to thank all of those who participa= ted > in the work of the working group that led to the adoption of this > proposal. Also thanks are due to those European Member Societies who > helped to influence their national administrations in this matter. > Now for WRC-12. > Colin, G3PSM > CEPT Co-ordinator for Agenda Item 1.23 > > > Laurence KL7UK > > ________________________________ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/3990 - Release Date: 11/01/11=