Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mh03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id BDC37380000BD; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:28:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ROXRt-0004P1-Uc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:25:57 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ROXRt-0004Os-H9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:25:57 +0000 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.100.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ROXRs-0003lr-5u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:25:57 +0000 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id pAAGPtdF026954 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:25:55 +0100 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id pAAGPsXO004325 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:25:54 +0100 Message-ID: <4EBBFACA.90700@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:24:42 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000a01cc9fc3$294700e0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <000a01cc9fc3$294700e0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: Daytime DX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030108060809090406060708" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:446017856:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60d74ebbfba4248f X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030108060809090406060708 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mal, LF, Yes i know. Looking on the YO/4X1RF grabber you see that the DCF level is almost constant over the day. In summer the level varies 30...40 dB from day to night. So there is almost no day in winther. Am 10.11.2011 17:09, schrieb mal hamilton: > Stefan es Co > The RN3AGC es TF3HZ grabbers are sensitive during daytime. They > receive me vy well during daylight. Maybe you have already tried them. > Is the JA grabber set up for 136.173 Khz, does he monitor this freq area ? As posted yesterday: http://icas.to/argo/eu.htm But the DCF S/N is just 15 dB in the moment. We would some kW ERP to apear there. Maybe the path will improve later... 21 to 23 UTC must be the best time to JA in the moment. Then, the band is closed to the east and still open to the west. Note his window is set for QRSS-120 so your QRSS-30 will hardly be visible, even if S/N would suffice. 73, gl, Stefan, joining in too soon. > There is a good chance of being seen/heard now the DX season has started > 73 gl de mal/g3kev --------------030108060809090406060708 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mal, LF,

Yes i know. Looking on the YO/4X1RF grabber you see that the DCF level is almost constant over the day. In summer the level varies 30...40 dB from day to night. So there is almost no day in winther.

Am 10.11.2011 17:09, schrieb mal hamilton:
Stefan es Co
The RN3AGC es TF3HZ  grabbers are sensitive during daytime. They receive me vy well during daylight. Maybe you have already tried them.
Is the JA grabber set up for 136.173 Khz, does he monitor this freq area ?

As posted yesterday: http://icas.to/argo/eu.htm
But the DCF S/N is just 15 dB in the moment. We would some kW ERP to apear there. Maybe the path will improve later... 21 to 23 UTC must be the best time to JA in the moment. Then, the band is closed to the east and still open to the west.

Note his window is set for QRSS-120 so your QRSS-30 will hardly be visible, even if S/N would suffice.

73, gl, Stefan, joining in too soon.

There is a good chance of being seen/heard now the DX season has started
73 gl de mal/g3kev
 
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