Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-de03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 009B738000090; Sun, 6 Nov 2011 09:00:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RN3FR-0000bK-V2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 13:58:57 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RN3FR-0000bB-B8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 13:58:57 +0000 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.100.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RN3FQ-00015z-JD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 13:58:57 +0000 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id pA6DwucC029818 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2011 14:58:56 +0100 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id pA6DwtJ0002890 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2011 14:58:55 +0100 Message-ID: <4EB6925B.7050906@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2011 14:57:47 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: ,<4EB678C3.1040805@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: OK2BVG_89770 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030308060802060309050708" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:501227392:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40cb4eb692e83f93 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030308060802060309050708 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Lubos, Am 06.11.2011 14:06, schrieb Lubos OK2BVG: > > I am going to improve some parts of my "kite equipment". I would like > to be ready when the wind is good! And what do you inted to improve? I see you are one of the real practical amateurs and build a fine equipment (like S52AB too) so maybe an automatic variometer would be a nice project to maximise the ERP in each kite angle. The lower the losses, the smaller the antenna BW and so the stronger the power decrease as a result of a changing kite angle. The radiation resistance is then strongly decreasing too, you know, but at least so can push the maximum power into the system anyway. On my QTH the wind is often stable. I think this is the reason why they installed the wind power plants there. Thus i have no automatic variometer there. Also i am regulating the TX power by tuning to resonance, always beeing a bit beside the top of the resonance curve. When i tune to the top, my generator stops, unfortunately ;-) Normally i am getting about 1 A +- 0.2 A antenna current on 8970 Hz. But as i did CW and used the 60000 uF (@350 V DC) cap in parallel (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/DSC03414.JPG) i got a maximum antenna current of 1.7 A :-) That's a factor 3 in power, so almost 5 dB improvement, another advantage of fast CW! :-) What is the S/N of your signal on your own grabber? Maybe you can make an audio recording and listen to your own signal after the test, just for the fascination of real CW on VLF! :-) Remember my own CW signal in 40.0 km distance (far field): http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/DK7FCinCWon8970Hzthe33kmband.WAV I hope i can come back soon on the band. It just depends on the wind and absence of rain on a weekend but that isn't so easy in the last time... 73 es GL! Stefan/DK7FC --------------030308060802060309050708 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Lubos,

Am 06.11.2011 14:06, schrieb Lubos OK2BVG:

I am going to improve some parts of my "kite equipment". I would like to be ready when the wind is good!

And what do you inted to improve?
I see you are one of the real practical amateurs and build a fine equipment (like S52AB too) so maybe an automatic variometer would be a nice project to maximise the ERP in each kite angle. The lower the losses, the smaller the antenna BW and so the stronger the power decrease as a result of a changing kite angle. The radiation resistance is then strongly decreasing too, you know, but at least so can push the maximum power into the system anyway.

On my QTH the wind is often stable. I think this is the reason why they installed the wind power plants there. Thus i have no automatic variometer there. Also i am regulating the TX power by tuning to resonance, always beeing a bit beside the top of the resonance curve. When i tune to the top, my generator stops, unfortunately ;-) Normally i am getting about 1 A +- 0.2 A antenna current on 8970 Hz. But as i did CW and used the 60000 uF (@350 V DC) cap in parallel (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/DSC03414.JPG) i got a maximum antenna current of 1.7 A :-) That's a factor 3 in power, so almost 5 dB improvement, another advantage of fast CW! :-)

What is the S/N of your signal on your own grabber? Maybe you can make an audio recording and listen to your own signal after the test, just for the fascination of real CW on VLF! :-) Remember my own CW signal in 40.0 km distance (far field): http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/DK7FCinCWon8970Hzthe33kmband.WAV

I hope i can come back soon on the band. It just depends on the wind and absence of rain on a weekend but that isn't so easy in the last time...

73 es GL!

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