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Bob On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 19:15:28 -0000 "mal hamilton" writes: > Warren > A magazine I expect that I am not familiar with > mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Warren Ziegler" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 6:59 PM > Subject: Re: LF: 5 Whats? > > > Mal, > > Matthew 5:5 > King James version > > 73 Warren > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 2:42 PM, mal hamilton > wrote: > > Correct !! especially over your way but in the UK the Appliance > Operator > > punter thinks only in terms of uWatts. Just read the emails on > here. > > de mal/g3kev > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Warren Ziegler" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 6:30 PM > > Subject: Re: LF: 5 Whats? > > > > > > Mal, > > > > I know some hams here that seem interested in 500kHz but when > > they find out the ARRL experimental license is for 20W ERP CW, PSK > and > > WSPR on a total band of 27kHz they lose interest. > > > > I image that even fewer will be interested in 5W and 8 kHz > > > > -- > > 73 Warren K2ORS > > WD2XGJ > > WD2XSH/23 > > WE2XEB/2 > > WE2XGR/1 > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:08 PM, mal hamilton > > wrote: > >> Warren > >> At the present time it is a Bodge anyway. I can understand the > commercial > >> interest, also a lot of Hams are not really interested in the > band. There > >> are only about 3 UK stns that I hear on the odd time in QSO mode, > a few > >> others around EU are belching out beacons and QSL via internet, > hardly > >> impressive to those that issue Permits. If the plug was pulled I > would > not > >> be too concerned because 160 metres is similar but has a big > occupancy > > with > >> QSO MODE being the norm, mostly CW with some SSB. > >> On LF it is the same tale, although this is now an International > band > > there > >> is very little interest, in fact the band occupancy has gone down > over > the > >> years. > >> It is now the same half dozen on the band daily and mostly Beacon > mode > qsl > >> via internet. The odd QRS 600000000000 does take place but > virtually no > > CW. > >> At present I would say that LF es MF is a total waste of time and > effort > >> I have 4 nice Decca amps Hi Band for 137 going Rusty!!!!!!! in > spite of > > this > >> I am still using my 1Kw h/brew. CQ on CW but no replies. > >> > >> mal/g3kev > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Warren Ziegler" > >> To: > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 4:41 PM > >> Subject: Re: LF: 5 Whats? > >> > >> > >> Mal, > >> > >> The maritime industry trade group has been pushing back against > >> hams on 500kHz in the hope that they can persuade governments to > fund > >> a new relatively broadband data service there. > >> The maritime group has standing with CEPT and the ITU and they > >> apparently have money and effective lobbyists behind them, the > hams on > >> the other hand are left to pick up scraps that fall off the table > and > >> are expected to be thankful for them! > >> > >> -- > >> 73 Warren K2ORS > >> WD2XGJ > >> WD2XSH/23 > >> WE2XEB/2 > >> WE2XGR/1 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 12:33 PM, mal hamilton > > > wrote: > >>> MF > >>> How did they arrive at that frequency range? No where near where > we are > > at > >>> present. New VFO'S and Xtals etc > >>> de mal/g3kev > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Warren Ziegler" > >>> To: > >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 3:34 PM > >>> Subject: Re: LF: 5 Whats? > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi Laurence, > >>> > >>> 5 Watts? Do we get to have 40 channels and use a 'power mic' > with > >>> reverb? > >>> Come On! > >>> > >>> 73 Warren K2ORS > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Laurence KL7UK > >>> wrote: > >>>> During the meeting of the CEPT WRC-12 Conference Preparatory > Group held > >> in > >>>> Bucharest between November 1st-4th 2011 an European Common > Proposal was > >>>> agreed. This ECP represents the block vote of 48 > administrations and > was > >>>> passed without dissent. It proposes an allocation to the > amateur > service > >>>> between 472-480 kHz on a secondary basis with a maximum power > limit of > > 5W > >>>> eirp. > >>>> This ECP will now be forwarded to the ITU as a contribution > from CEPT. > >>>> I would like to take this opportunity to thank all of those > who > >>> participated > >>>> in the work of the working group that led to the adoption of > this > >>>> proposal. Also thanks are due to those European Member > Societies who > >>>> helped to influence their national administrations in this > matter. > >>>> Now for WRC-12. > >>>> Colin, G3PSM > >>>> CEPT Co-ordinator for Agenda Item 1.23 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Laurence KL7UK > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> 73 Warren K2ORS > >>> WD2XGJ > >>> WD2XSH/23 > >>> WE2XEB/2 > >>> WE2XGR/1 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 3000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4eb1af197287c6a308m03vuc